It is the west signing bombs and putting explosives in consumer electronics

We are the bad guys

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🤦🏼‍♂️ well that’s annoying. You’re right.

Sad but true

Except for basically everything that Hamas and Hezbollah have been doing for decades.

Yes they too are bad guys

But like why can't we be like panama or something, how many bombs do they sign

We could be like Panama (although, we do use the threat of our bombs to protect their canal), but there are likely real consequences that involve eventual large-scale violence if the USA just abandons the world stage.

These are all hypothetical reasons to engage in offensives, and there are very good arguments that USA's constant aggression and expansion is what is leading to this current period of large scale violence.

How many terrorists did we create after 2 decades of bombing the Middle East? What do we have to show for it? Are we safer now? More prosperous?

Nobody is fucking with China, do they sign bombs in their propaganda? You can flex on the world stage without committing atrocities

It can be true that US involvement in world politics has blowback effects without it also being true that all modern terrorism is a product of western meddling.

I'm not saying that everything the US does is appropriate, but I am saying it is a fatal naivete to imagine that the rest of the world just reacts to western aggression and has no regional or global ambitions of their own and that those ambitions are interested in promoting individual rights as understood by you or me.

The fact of the matter is that any large enough society is going to come into conflict with other large societies and not for anything more than it's people just trying to live their lives. This is an unavoidable aspect of human existence. The US could remove it's military presence from the world, it could stop all foreign aid, and it would *still* come into some form of global conflict.

Is this the point where people in the US are allowed to morally say "fuck you" to the one's complaining about our behavior? Seriously, at which point are we allowed to say "No, I'm doing this thing I want to do because I'm allowed to, and if you try to stop me, I'm going to defend myself and my friends"?

Because if, in your mind, such a situation can possibly exist, then you're ultimately talking about the US signing bomb shipments.

This is all to say nothing of the fact that some people are, in fact, bad. Bad people deserve rejection and frustration of their goals, which are bad. I am comfortable saying this because I am not a moral relativist.

Would it have been inappropriate for the Allies to booby trap Nazi radios during the Battle of the Bulge?

There is no America like we think. Just corporate interests propped by intelligence agencies

When you start to understand humanity and reality that the vast majority of people all want the same thing, you start to question the good guys vs evil guys narrative a bit. When you can place yourself in the shoes of the supposed bad guys, things become a lot less clear that they’re really as bad as they’ve been made out to be. Now, that’s not to say that the bad guys aren’t bad because there’s certainly some amount of shit heads in the world, but you do start to question wether we’re really the good guys or rather maybe, just maybe, we’re actually the bad guys. It’s all about perspective, I suppose.