Nostr Web Client

Brett Morrison 2y ago

We're excited to share what we've been working on - the TrueVote app in action!

TrueVote is not just an app; it's a commitment to transparency. Built on Bitcoin, Opentimestamps, and Nostr, our open-source platform ensures tamper-proof ballot data. No smoke and mirrors, just verifiable election integrity of every ballot, every vote.

TrueVote solves two fundamental problems in elections:

1. Ballot verification: With TrueVote, you can verify your vote was counted, eliminating the uncertainty that plagues traditional voting methods.

2. Convenience: TrueVote brings voting to your fingertips, eliminating the inconvenience of polling places and mail-in ballots. Voting should be as convenient as the rest of our digital lives.

We believe in openness, which is why our tech stack is entirely open-source. Transparency isn't just a feature; it's a virtue. We're empowering voters with unprecedented visibility into the voting process.

Ballot data is validated using Opentimestamps hashing on Bitcoin. No "token" needed. No "new crypto coin" needed. Bitcoin and Bitcoin only.

And now, TrueVote uses Nostr, an innovative decentralized and open-source communications protocol, for secure authentication.

Technology (bitcoin) has made it possible to separate money and state, and it is time to decouple the state from the election process to ensure election integrity.

It's time we vote on our phones!

#TrueVote #ElectionIntegrity #ElectionTransparency

https://twitter.com/morrisonbrett/status/1726618612633591902https://m.primal.net/HQmk.mp4

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Brett Morrison 2y ago

https://youtu.be/7xkOqYgV3aI

UNCLE ROCKSTAR 2y ago

Next 6 months of dev on top of Nostr will be insane, I'm now at nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft bullish level.

Nathan Day 2y ago

Very bullshit. 😂

I want to look into this, this is pretty exciting.

Homomorphic system ? Such that one can verify the votes without revealing the actual vote ?

Cheers

Brett Morrison 2y ago

Even simpler than that. I just call it 'decoupling'. The ballot is verified and hashed using Opentimestamps for everyone to see. The userid and ballotid together are only known to the voter.

Necessary 👏👏👏

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Interesting.

🟠 isolabellart 2y ago

👀👀💪💪

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How do you verify a vote is associated with a real human with real citizenship?

Brett Morrison 2y ago

Voting registrars still have to validate a person's eligibility to vote. That data is linked to TrueVote before issuance of an election code.

CitizenPedro 2y ago

Very cool! How are you defining identity? i.e making sure that one user can only vote once?

Brett Morrison 2y ago

Just like today with mail-in ballots, you can't have more than one. You still need to have a valid voter registration record.

Josua Schmid 2y ago

What about the anonymity of the vote? Pseudonyms of Bitcoin alone are not enough.

Brett Morrison 2y ago

For sure. Voters still need to register and those registrations are linked to TrueVote.

pistachio3 2y ago

nostr:npub1k3nyttxjdweup07r6sjcycw2yqc926je92yqud69lch7jlfm20esvgcydw problem solved

Jim Smij 2y ago

if an election happens in the woods but there are no phones, did an election happen?

Theory of Everything 2y ago

Brett Morrison 2y ago

Love that. Yes, yes it did, but we'll never know if it was fair.

Nice. How are all the votes committed? Do you guys run an aggregation server and then commit votes in big blocks?

Brett Morrison 2y ago

Yes, both time and number of records will trigger an Opentimestamps submission, depending on velocity of data.

PocketCow 2y ago

👀

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freedom dev 𓅦 2y ago

How do you anonymize the ballot? How do you decouple the voter id from the vote?

Brett Morrison 2y ago

The ballotid and userid is encrypted using the voters' private key. Only the voter can view the ballot and prove the ballot belongs to their user account.

There are heuristic searches that may need to be defended against with additional anonymizing of data.

freedom dev 𓅦 2y ago

I read the whitepaper, but some details are not clear.

If "only the voter" can "prove that the ballot belongs" to him or her, then how can a third-party, an auditor, prove that there was absolutely no possibility of fraud and that the result is provably accurate?

People that check know that their vote has been counted. What about people that don't care? Someone could be voting for them. Or maybe they voted and their vote wasn't counted. Is it assumed that everyone should check?

Brett Morrison 2y ago

I spell it out in the white paper. TLDR; The userid and ballotid are only known to the voter. They're decoupled when the data is at rest. There's no way anyone can know which voter submitted which ballot.

Best thing I’ve seen in the last few months... Congratulations!

Brett Morrison 2y ago

Thanks Rubu. We need it!

In my country Brazil it is a matter of survival, we use Venezuelan electronic voting machines and the majority of the population has lost confidence, popular demonstrations do not match the results and, even approved in previous governments, they do not issue paper proof for later audit.

StackSats.IO 2y ago

Nice Brett, good idea 🤙

The cost to create new keys is free, therefor, the cost to vote multiple times is free.

You need to prove human uniqueness, which implies incorporating the dreaded #DigitalIdentity in some manner.

My take? Spending #Bitcoin is the best vote on earth.

Brett Morrison 2y ago

The key is linked to your voter registration.

How does that prevent voting multiple times?

pseudo~u *likes nostr already* 2y ago

I don't have a phone so

Theory of Everything 2y ago

Brett Morrison 2y ago

There is a browser interface.

Until you can identify the authority that will separate elections from the state, I will continue to believe that what you call the two fundamental problems with elections are not bugs from the prospective of those running the elections.

Brett Morrison 2y ago

A functioning democracy is one where everyone eligible to vote does vote, and every vote is counted perfectly. We don't have that now, so we're building it at TrueVote.

Critics who don't want to have transparent, accurate elections have no defensible position.

And your positive The problem is The way we vote and not the concept of democracy itself?

Brett Morrison 2y ago

Democracy is ineed flawed: What do 2 wolves and 1 chicken vote on when they decide what to eat for dinner?

But, as long as we have it, we may as well have election integrity.

Don't you have anything more productive to do than make the state more efficient? Have you considered macrame?

Bitcoin Ben 2y ago

Good morning Brett. This is incredible man great work.

Is there a place to find info on this for people who don't use nostr? I'd like to share this with a few people.

Thank you!

mark tyler 2y ago

Maybe this

https://njump.me/note197pcwzraajyzywplgxxt77p4gr3rwgfd50xkkpfw2e72cffad2ks677g0j

mark tyler 2y ago

Or

https://twitter.com/TrueVoteOrg

Brett Morrison 2y ago

Thanks Ben. Yes I posted on Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, and Instagram.

Here's Twitter: https://twitter.com/TrueVoteOrg/status/1726618177919185307

This is very cool. I would like to see a version that implements AnonDAO like voting. You specify voting rules (quorum, who can participate with what stake) and due to magic of zero knowledge proofs, nothing will be known about the voting, just if the rules were satisfied and what result won.

I think transparency is for a worse in many cases. It enables politicizing, status games and many other things.

But that's not a criticism of this project, as I said, very cool!

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Great, this is really missing and needed!

It is a noble effort, but in my humble opinion #Bitcoin makes obsolete and replaces all forms of centralized governance over time, and replaces it with decentralized governance at the sovereign individual level. Voting is a "good try" to keep centralized governance in check. It seems like this is using the next system to try and fix the old and dying system. I don't see them as compatible. But respect nonetheless and just my 2 cents.