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You’re saying “trust math,” but math only binds when its primitives are well-posed. The modern definition of superposition smuggles in simultaneity without a defined clock. “At once” with respect to what unit of time?

If one can break the modern definition of superposition, you break the entire math and theory behind CQC models.

1. Superposition without a time quantum is semantics, not physics.

Superposition isn’t just spatial spread; it’s temporal and it asserts coexistence of incompatible states between measurements. If the smallest tick of change isn’t operationally defined or measured , “simultaneous” is an undefined primitive. Planck time is a theoretical bound, not a measured clock, it has never been measured or observed because of technological limitations, and the fact we exist within the ledger we’re trying to measure. Until you can compute time at that granularity, you’re describing probability distributions, not realized process. The modern definition of Superposition is assumed and has not been proven due to the lack of a measured quantum of time.

2. Bitcoin computes time; physics only infers it. Every block is a discrete, auditable quantum of time and memory created by irreducible work. Proof-of-work collapses entropy into a single conserved outcome at each tick. That is an operational definition of time: energy → structure, recorded forever. Within this substrate, “multiple states at once” reduces to “unresolved proposals in the mempool.” Measurement (mining + consensus) eliminates simultaneity, every step has one verifiable result.

3. “We can just scale to X logical qubits” rests on reversible-computation dogma. Resource estimates presume:

- a stable clock for coherent evolution,

- fault-tolerant logical qubits with nontrivial overhead,

- error models that stay stationary as scale rises,

- a readout that doesn’t reintroduce irreversibility costs you hand-wave away.

- assumes centralization in measurement and observation.

CQC is math on an assumed substrate. Bitcoin is math on a measured substrate: every tick priced in joules and conserved as memory. If your definition of superposition lacks a measured tick, your “proof” is an extrapolation from symbols, not from measurable physics.

You don’t defeat a thermodynamic clock (Bitcoin) with a semantic clock. Until “at once” is anchored to a measured quantum of time, superposition-based certainty is metaphysics with equations. Bitcoin’s ledger gives the thing you’re missing: a verifiable tick where entropy becomes memory. Go verify, the proof is in the work.

There is no second best, there has never been a threat. You just believe a story and deny the physics of the operational system in front of you.

Don’t trust, verify they say.

This is tinfoil hat woo-woo nonsense. I don't know where you're reading this stuff, it sounds like some Deepak Chopra of bitcoin physics, but I'd not go back to that source.

All you really need to know is this. The Grover algo quadratic speedup (Order of sqrt(N) compared to the classical Order of N for an unsorted search space of size N) has been proven. First you've got the geometric proof of quadratic speedup, and if you don't believe in geometric proofs you don't believe in anything, since geometric proofs are as final as it gets in math. Next the principle of this same quadratic speedup has been successfully demoed and validated on the current quantum chips, even with the noise they have. As in without quantum chips enabling quadratic speedup what happened could not have happened.

That's it. There is no Deepak Chopra rhinestone-powered magic going on here. And this is why people who are serious about bitcoin are rightly concerned.

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Lol. Ok man.

You can append your physics to a fiat model if you’d like, I’m not here to stop you. If you want to believe that particles can exist in “multiple states at once”, go for it. You’re double spending your beliefs.

Grover algo is literally built upon physics and theory that Bitcoin disproves. I don’t care what it proves, it requires non-observable physics to work.

I’m reading from my own mind, my thoughts and my work.

Sorry man. Both geometric proof and real-world experimental proof. Your somewhat wild theory has already been killed off by proof. Done deal.

Lol, the modern definition of superposition is not proven as Planck Time has not been measured. Full stop.

But sure, believe that particles exist in multiple states at once. You need to, the story you have appended your physical belief to doesn’t work without it.

No double spends, except quantum physics 😂.

If you don't believe in either mathematical geometric proofs or real-world experimental evidence then you don't believe in anything, I'm sorry. Bitcoin might as well be powered by Thor's hammer for you.

What does this even mean? You can’t mathematically prove superposition unless you are measuring at Planck Time.

Show me a device that can measure Planck time and process the information between ticks in a logical sequence.

How does one converse with someone for whom nothing is real there's no such thing as proof?

Shrug. Whatever you want to be true, you do you.

You are the one defending a model of physics that claims temporal simultaneity and I’m asking you to prove it at the smallest unit of time, Planck Time.

Where is your proof that the modern definition of superposition exists at the smallest unit of possible time.

You can’t as it has not been measured. Therefore you are operating a model of physics on a convenient assumption and trust.

You're just one of those people that always goes one level down says "prove this exists", and then if someone can you just go one more level down, on to infinity. Gotta stop somewhere or no conversation has meaning.

You used the name Jack but prove the letter J exists. Prove this computer exists. Prove bitcoin exists. Prove the Dodgers are in the world series... Can you prove any of that? I'll wait.

I admire your patience. Some people can not be taken seriously.