You get Jesus at the price you deserve is the short answer.

I do understand what you're feeling about "personal relationship". I struggle with that as well. A lot. Think of it this way: I know you love your wife because you talk about your family in nothing but positive language.

Do you trust her? That's the basis of your personal relationship with her.

I've come to trust God and Jesus and I think that's all there needs to be to my personal relationship with those two. The Holy Ghost thing I still don't understand at all so I just kind let that one float.

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Someone once described the Holy Ghost thing to me as water in three forms. Solid, liquid and gas.

I think you’re probably right and that trust is a key part of the equation. I’ll have to overcome that hurdle at some point.

Let me rephrase: You get Jesus at the time when you are comfortable with it.

The other way sounds like I'm an asshole.

Haha I know what you meant

Read about Doubting Thomas. Understanding that God gave you the ability to reason and be skeptical. Some need more evidence than others.

Doubting Thomas’ story helped me get over a massive mental hurdle. I had guilt because I needed proof. And the guilt prevented me from seeing proof that show shown to me by God.

Man examines Gods Creation and finds a small part of the Code of Life. So wouldnt you want to know the story of mans relationship with the Guy who wrote the Code to Creation. And GO ALL IN?!

#GOALLIN

I’ll chime in coming from a Roman Catholic background and a decade of Tibetan Buddhism.

I like Nunya’s pointer towards trust. Having a relationship with God is akin to trusting that the universe is always as it should be and providing feedback. You are saying yes to what is, like improv’ing with God, with your life, and your relationships. You have trust or faith in the groundlessness of the human experience.

As for Jesus, his message at a high level is to be a good person and the utility of ‘knowing’ him is to bridge the gap between human form, human experience, and God. If creating an imaginary friend helps someone relate or understand his teachings, then do it. By no means is it mandatory imo.