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I'd push back on most of your points.. There is so much liquidity on the streets for XMR (and BTC) for cash trades. Going through Bisq or similar platforms isn't required. You just need to be in the right network. Your article doesn't say how the criminal was identified. I'd bet the farm is wasn't from any Monero transaction heuristics.

So you're happy to participate in a global financial network that has an open and transparent ledger for auditing purposes. I get that for a store of vlaue as long as you are a happy taxpayer and like funding the corrupt old establishent. That's fine and maybe when the government knock your door and ask for your bitcoin keys that they've linked to your real life indentity so they can issue you your freshly printed paper BlackRock vouchers as a replacement then great 🤟 I understand this is the price you are willing to pay for NGU and keeping bad guys off the street. And when you shout "but I've done nothing wrong, you can't do this" then remember this is the future you asked for.

Without privacy there is no freedom.

Constant hardforks in Monero is old news. Sethforprivacy dubunked this years ago.

When I read posts like yours I genuinely lose hope of bitcoin ever changing the world. It'll create a new generation of wealthy taxpayers who will bend the knee and kiss the ring at the very most. Monero users on the other hand I've always found are willing to give the noble class the middle finger regardless of its price.

I wish you good luck but we are cut from a much different cloth.

It's pretty great reading how misinformed you are of how the world actually works.

Heuristics lead you to Monero, as how you acquired it will always leave a trail if you're moving a sizeable amount of money - no need to even break the privacy characteristics, which have been broken on numerous occasions throughout it's history.

This is literally my whole point, & you happily avoided the lack of ability to actually mine Monero directly for your own blind bias.

& you're wrong, there are hardforks that are going to take place no matter what - even if the frequency is reduced.

Like I said, I'm happy people are using Monero to avoid taxes, they'll learn soon enough & I won't feel bad for them.

If you want to avoid taxes, move, vote with your feet.

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Bitcoin has great privacy, with the largest anonset out of any cryptocurrency in the world.

Claiming it doesn't is proof of 🤡.

Bitcoin is not private on the protocol level. To claim it has the largest anon set is hilarious.

So you're just dumb, got it.

I'm not stooping to insults because I lack evidence to support my claims

Rightttttttttt

"Bitcoin has great privacy"

What the fuck have you been smoking son?

Can't work out if you are class of 21 or 22? The most recent converts to bitcoin are usually the most zealot.

Read the OP again, you can buy Bitcoin not tied to your identity very easily.

You would be transacting privately at that point.

Further CJ exists, I know tough to actually have a intellectually coherent argument for people sipping dumbfuckjuice like you.

I have also been using Bitcoin since 2016.

Researching since 2011.

Interested in privacy tech since then too.

You're trying to shove your views onto others without any substance, classic commie NRG.

"Researched bitcoin for 5 years before I grew some balls and bought"

- ShiShi21m

Another classic statement from ShiShi that's destined for the hall of fame.

While you were scratching your arse I was busy buying shrooms on Silk Road for 80btc a gram and getting scammed by FE vendors on Agora 🤣

Bitcoin belonged to the risk takers before the upper class intelligista entered the market. Glad you hate #monero, please please take longer than 5 years to grok it.

You're just showing how low level you really are here.

If you knew how Ring sigs worked you would know Monero anon set is larger.

KYC coin (Very few CEXes have Monero, users more privacy conscious obviously)

Institutional coin (institutions scared on Monero)

Users who don't coinjoin (Monero is private by default)

Users who don't use tor/i2p don't count (dandelion++ mitigates this with Monero).

That small fraction left is your bitcoin anonset

You don't understand what privacy actually means, good luck hope you're holding 100% of your wealth in monero.

Says the person arguing a public chain is more private than one that isn't. Cognitive dissonance to 11/10.

Typical ShiShi, nothing refuted, but endless claims on claims.

"You don't understand what privacy actually means" See I can just say stuff too.

Where did I say Bitcoin is more or less private than any other currency?

I said it has the largest anon set to hide in plain sight without relying on blackbox money supply issuance & bugs that can last for years.

Learn to read.

Anonsets include spendability,

All CJ implementations combined,

Mining,

Etc...

Anonymity (hidden identity) is different from privacy (hiding actions). You can have one without the other. And one can be weaponized to uncover the other.

And even "largest anon set" is dubious considering most Bitcoin is institutional, on CEXes, or KYCd without coinjoins

Ceteris paribus Monero will always be more private than Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a public blockchain. Cope.