What would granny-proof Bitcoin self-custody look like?
Something that can be used by a person with zero technical knowledge.
Pitch me your best concept. No need to rely on existing tech. Put as much imagination and sci-fi into it as you like!
Will ⚡️ zap best answers generously.
I think it’s something like Muun wallet. An extremely simple app that anyone can download for free, setup with just an email as backup and use immediately. Send, receive and balance display. That’s all granny can handle and that’s all a non-technical user really needs.
Muun is great, but think even simpler!
Think for somebody that has trouble using mobile apps on a smartphone.
The only simpler evolution I can think of is an inbuilt wallet of some kind that comes pre-loaded in the OS of smart phones. But getting funds into the wallet would still be a hurdle for the challenged user.
It’s called ETF. Stop looking for the easy way and start studying
LOL your granny must be financially savvy to know what an ETF is. Think simpler! Think 5 year old.
My idea:
Piggy bank 🐷 and key fob 🔑.
Tap 🐷 with 🔑 on right ear to make a deposit. Tap on left ear to make a withdrawal. Duration of tap determines amount. LED display on piggy shows amount deposited/withdrawn.
Erm.... Sounds complicated 😅
Justo el otro día vi esto y me parecío buena idea : https://www.lightningpiggy.com/build/
Maybe something they already know how to use like a credit card. Imagine a MasterCard but its a hardware signer and you can just use it to pay at stores.
Doesn't sound really secure tough.
I think it would be a device that can print cold cards, scan and read them and all while being full encrypted and privacy friendly. No backdoors or internet connection.
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Let me raise the stakes. I will zap ⚡️ 100k sats for a really excellent answer with plenty of details.
Reminder: it's simple SELF-CUSTODY that I'm interested in. There's already plenty of good spending tech and custodial apps with good UX.
I don't see many easy to use, secure self-custody solutions that I could recommend to an 80 year old (or a 5 yo).
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You should be all over this nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m
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A paper wallet, maybe in a more resistant, plastic made card format. The private QR in a opaque sleeve that reads "DO NOT SHOW TO ANYONE, EVER!". The public QR in a transparent sleeve. Can't be more grandma friendly than something analog.
Got ideas nostr:npub166lfd9f8hhpt225gpcx4zuf4uw8pl50t8y9dg2449gt3v50kedpqpe5utk ?
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There's always the "In Time" solution... but that movie was very bad opsec 🙄
A device that works with voice activation and interact with the user explain and leading him through all stages of self custody. More level of interaction from basic to a more advanced level when you choose also fees and manage UTXOs.
Of course the IA should be foss and open source.
A display also would help.
But the point of really simple UX is that it does not need explaining. If you need an AI assist... it's probably not simple enough.
What do you have to say about this nostr:npub1mayqdaq0sd5f4uexa6aky3agr982vhqs3rw7qwm6yr9h5zetdg4q4shl50 ?
Your spending UX is pretty good.
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Pirate theme:
1. Treasure chest (offline, on-chain, self-custody, accepts deposits, no withdrawals without key).
2. Coin (tap-pay spending LN wallet for smaller amounts).
Generate a private key and put onto a write-once device like TapSigner. Maybe with the help of a company that helps you with tools and resources but remains blind.
The device can sign for anything, custom message, tx with custom derivation path, lightning txs, multisig, script txs.
It will NEVER reveal the seed words inside. (Unlike the tapsigner actually)
Seed words go concealed into a safety deposit box and is protected by legal structures and corporate stuff that is acceptable. Maybe there are options for the renegade too.
Tapsigner can be snapped (broken) if you are under duress.
