fact: cashu mint to mint conversion, which you must do to “trustlessly” receive cashu, is the same as making an LN payment

but no one wants to say this because it doesn’t look good

only the difference is the recipient pays the fees for getting your sats from whereever you put it nostr:note1elalz03m73j79qmx9w5vwzjnmzlk4llrfx7n2e8htr2refw9l5ds0pglc5

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Cashu is custodial. It's been said, it keeps being said. If you want trustless, cashu ain't it. If you move cashu from one mint to your own, you're better off paying a lightning invoice to yourself instead.

Stop striving for trustless and instead explore how much trust you are willing to embrace and for what value. Can you batch payments with a reasonable amount of trust?

Also, don't recommend cashu as a trustless tool to others.

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Custodial LN < cashu mint