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It's time we had good, reliable, open-source data about Nostr.

https://stats.andotherstuff.org

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This is cool, but I feel there is a TON of bots and fake profiles causing inflated metrics.

You show the new users of yesterday are 35k, but according to my metrics only ~300 are reputable (followed by at least one reputable).

This would also explain why the retention is basically at the bottom.

I am willing to give lifetime access to nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejz7qpqkpt95rv4q3mcz8e4lamwtxq7men6jprf49l7asfac9lnv2gda0lqpsy38p so you can filter out some of the crap. WDYT?

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New users is irreelevant metric where you can generate a million of them between breathes.

I guess DPU w/ profile+followers is the only somewhat relevant metric even tho that can be easily manipulated

exactly, unless you use a WoT service provider like Vertex to determine the reputation of the user, which is determined by other people that already have reputation.

That's fair, but it's also fair that human users aren't the only users that we actually care about on nostr. DVMs are users. Servers are users. And yes, even bots are users. This is more of a question of what do we want to measure vs are these numbers correct.

Would love to talk through this more sometime though because I'm sure there is some fun stuff we could do to build a chart that would allow us to visualize these breakdowns better.

That's a good take. Yeah the best as you said would be to categorize these users, giving the option to remove from the stats the non-reputsble according to some threshold and ranking algorithm.

Let's continue this convo on Signal

Interesting... some user stats here definitely seem unrealistic

For retention stats we gotta differentiate humans. You’re right we care about other activity too, but showing retention flatlining after a week isn’t fair to the ecosystem. Nobody can show that graph to someone on the fence and expect them to try it out, let alone show it to a potential investor in a product developed here.

Agree. The drop off rates make no sense. Wonder if ephemeral users/keys are being counted somehow.