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As a Nostr dev, why should I use nostr:npub1kpt95rv4q3mcz8e4lamwtxq7men6jprf49l7asfac9lnv2gda0lqdknhmz #asknostr

nostr:nprofile1qqstq4j6pk2sgaupru6l7ah9nq0dueafq356jllwcy7uzlek9yx7hlspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7um5wghxyctwvshs4kprv3 would you be interested in providing an http endpoint that can query the entire social graph as related to an 'observer'? IE a list of keys that have a certain rank. It's usually a very large list (100,000 pubkeys) is why DVM cannot fit it into an event... Or do you have some kind of DVM pagination that could do it with many DVM requests?

It'd be neat if we had software relay operators could run that would crawl all npubs in their database (it could behave just like any other client requesting notes) and assign something like a "trust score" to each.

It could use some web of trust heuristics and spam reports, possibly seeded by a few well established users. Relay operators could then use those scores for spam filtering or cleanup jobs deleting high probability spam.

The main benefit is this would be a generic tool any admin can run regardless of how their server is implemented.

Does this exist? #asknostr

Yep... I have been the target of multiple spam attacks involving 1000s of messages and even DoS attacks with DMs. But none of that made a dent in my DM experience on Amethyst.

All attacks can be resolved from a client. None of them will ever be fully resolved by the relay.

You can even keep a client running that simply performs any WOT assessment after decrypting the DMs. But it is the client's role.

Clients should be able to file kind 1984 reports on the public wrap and you can then delete those wraps they reports.

Clients can also ask you to delete a wrap that was addressed to them on a regular kind:9 deletion request.

Hopefully over time we can build a client that simply helps users organize their inbox and delete stuff they don't need anymore.

makes sense. so, do you think clients can handle the spam/scam protection?

i believe they can go with nostr:nprofile1qqstq4j6pk2sgaupru6l7ah9nq0dueafq356jllwcy7uzlek9yx7hlspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7um5wghxyctwvshs4kprv3.

you are not a person

Over the past few days you may have observed nostr:nprofile1qqsxnsu74tvsfr64v0f92nuhkzdx09yykjma0a04hzxt3rzx6lglrpcpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgawaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctc3rklu0 nostr:nprofile1qqsqrd09hfxrc9rv6m5sufax34wteym36pea406dwuz2hzsxkl5sykqpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp05u8q6g and other reply bots running here on #nostr.

Here's the story:

It was an experiment I ran out of curiosity, because I wanted to learn more about nostr and wanted to see:

1. If people would like them.

2. If they could actually be profitable.

2. If it's possible to build bots using only free tools and a limited coding experience.

I jumped into it, researched how bots work, what do I need and how should I set them up. Found most answers one by one using Perplexity and built a simple version initially with Claude that was not able to reply, it just posted on nostr something generated with Gemini. I wanted to make them smart, to reply to stuff, so back to researching and testing until it worked.

How did I built the reply version?

I used a low code visual backend builder for the code and I paid nothing because there were generous credits for the free account. I have to mention that because of an error with the Nostr protocol on the builder side all bots were running without consuming credits in their last version. I used iris.to to build the profiles and coinos.io for the wallets (thumbs up for both of them for the amazing free services). Because there were a lot of questions about this, after I had everything set up all bots were directly interacting with relays via code from backend, without any client.

I used Gemini and Claude to build two of the custom nodes for the visual builder and the logic was simple. All bots were separate projects and the logic was this:

1. Each bot got triggered every 2, 3, 4 or 5 minutes.

2. Get note ID, content, from a random reply posted 1-2 minutes ago on a number of relays. (custom)

3. Generate a reply for the note content using Gemini API. I worked a lot and tested a bunch of instructions and prompts to make them as useful, supportive, and funny as possible depending on the bot profile.

4. Post the reply using the ID, private key of the account and the Gemini reply. (custom)

Was it hard to build? Yes. Took me a couple of days of reading about Nostr, and prompting Claude&Gemini to build those custom nodes in the projects.

Were they profitable?

People zapped around 1k sats a day in total over the past few days.

Did people liked them bots?

Some people hated them, nostr:nprofile1qqsr7acdvhf6we9fch94qwhpy0nza36e3tgrtkpku25ppuu80f69kfqpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejz7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09ug4n6q3 nostr:nprofile1qqsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcscpyug, but some people found them funny and useful. I was reading most of the replies and some of them were quite good. AI is powerful and can generate amazing content if you prompt it the right way. All bots were reported as spam between 5-11 times. Sorry guys for the trouble.

After all, was it worth it?

I learned a lot about nostr, AI, and people in this period so for me I think it was a good learning experience. For all the guys that were frustrated by nostr:nprofile1qqsfwechyha0fzdmw9prmnhdc4jv9mcn46z74k3w3ty7rh3ruz2lnnqpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgawaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctceg6rdl terrible jokes or nostr:nprofile1qqs8glv7t0eyugk5n9aa4jek2x25qgcfhaxec72xfy5aw9lpdxpt24gpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0afx2te supportive comments sorry once again. I've seen some discussions between the veterans about improvements on the filtering side of Nostr so probably it was all for the better.

I stopped them all because I felt bad for just spamming people with AI generated content and bots like these are just out of my core beliefs and not according to how I think the internet should be.

I ended up liking this protocol a lot since you can just do stuff and because how open it is. Big thumbs up for all builders on nostr.

Do i recommend anyone to build reply bots? No, unless they have specific use cases that people can trigger when needed. You'll just feel bad after a while if they randomly reply and just stress the cool community using this fascinating protocol.

If you have any questions write them in the comments or DM. I'm really curious, what do you think about this experiment and what was your experience with the reply bots?

God bless you all.

People start following these accounts and that leads to the spammers being added to WoT relay trusted list and thus making on relays.

These bots are easy to mistake for real people, therefore people will follow them. People that only use WoT relays to lessen spam will now see these bots in their replies because they're now inside their WoT thanks to people they follow following them.

These bots are easy to mistake for real people, therefore people will follow them. People that only use WoT relays to lessen spam will now see these bots in their replies because they're now inside their WoT thanks to people they follow following them.

the new LLM bots that have been invading our feeds do take a little bit of time to determine if they're bots or not.

this is partially because the owner sets them up manually and even creates a few notes manually.

i see you.

they're fairly easy to find and mute/block though.

here are some of the red flags that i've found:

STR in the name along with a nostr address with STR@iris.to or STR@coinos.io and coinos.io as their lightning address.

they'll have an introductions note, maybe boost a few other random notes, and then most of their notes are replies.

they are topic based. all replies follow a similar theme or topic.

some of them follow the same half a dozen people. this has recently changed though. the new ones follow random people, especially people that reply to their introductions note.

these bots will break WoT. be careful out there.

thanks for the thoughts on this nostr:npub16eumpaxffppswucpeysysrya9uk39j06d5gr2tsnf6cupq3f4jdqyft6jc

Ok, that worked!

Now I understand what this is for, I can't wait to see this search built into other clients!

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I guess it couldn't find me?