Nostr Web Client

Jingles 2y ago

#nostr App Release 🚀

https://nostr.kiwi/

- full PWA experience (add to home screen, thats it!)

- NIP-172 moderated communities (user decide to show all notes at settings)

- two tap #zap

- NIP-46 login with nsecbunker

- NIP-07 login with extensions

- nostr.build new API integration

- follow communities and topics

- explore the app to find out more, you can just visit the home page to experience it, recommended to test on mobile and “add to Home Screen”

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τέχνη 2y ago

In practice, is this basically moderated hashtags?

Do your posts to a “community” also show up on your own timeline?

Jingles 2y ago

It’s not moderated hashtags. It’s curated by a group of users. Public posts are in the settings, users can decide for themselves not to be “moderated”.

Community feed does shows up in feed before, currently it doesn’t, that will be back.

τέχνη 2y ago

One of the difficulties with micro apps may be explaining how different micro apps will affect peoples’ main app experiences.

I’m still unsure of whether my posts to a community will show up in my Damus profile for example. Ideally I wouldn’t burden people that are uninterested in the community topic with my community postings.

It reminds me of Delta Chat the messaging app that uses email protocols. I think a lot of their adoption issues revolves around people not wanting to “mess up” their main email app experience.

So they started recommending to people that they just use a brand new generated email account instead of their main email account. Which defeated a main purpose of building on email to begin with (everyone already has an email)

Glenn 2y ago

Having trouble logging in using Nostore on iPhone. Is there a trick to this or is there another Nip07 extension for iPhone that works?

Jingles 2y ago

You’re right. I tested with alby on desktop it’s ok. Just tested with nostore on iPhone, it shows “NIP07 extension not available”. Mmm, who is the nostore expert?

Cameri🐦‍🔥 2y ago

Sick!

JeffG 2y ago

Nice work! 🤙

⚡️🌱🌙 2y ago

NIP-07 doesn’t work on iOS for PWA’s, as PWA’s run in a separate WebKit instance that does not have browser extension access.

A challenge for Nostore.

But don’t worry, soon enough nostr will figure out a workaround. This is the great strength of FOSS engineering a network protocol.

Suddenly the internet is malleable again.

Jingles 2y ago

Hey. It worked before. When in safari, when not in PWA mode.

⚡️🌱🌙 2y ago

Yes it will work in normal safari.

But in PWA mode safari runs in a separate WebKit instance, and the PWA instance does not have access to browser extensions.

🫤

PWA + safari extensions = ☠️

PABLOF7z 2y ago

NsecBunker makes PWAs work without a nip 07 extension.

⚡️🌱🌙 2y ago

See. Didn’t take long.

🤣

PABLOF7z 2y ago

It’s why I built it 😂 I needed it for the highlighter PWA

Koutakou ⚡ 2y ago

L'écosystème #nostr grandi de jour en jour ⚡💪

#nostrfr

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nobody 2y ago

Looks amazing, well done!

Zach 2y ago

I really want to test out these kinds of micro apps, but I’m hesitant to put my private key all over the place (I’m on an iPhone). Not being technical, I have no good way of knowing whether a client is responsibly handling keys or not.

Tony 2y ago

nsecBunker support coming https://lnshort.it/nsecbunker

Jingles 2y ago

Yea I get you. It could take awhile to earn the trust, can create a new key and give it a try first.

PABLOF7z 2y ago

It’s not just about trusting you; the trust is all the way to the system and the user; you could accidentally paste it somewhere you didn’t intend to

Derek Ross 2y ago

You shouldn't paste your nsec! On an iPhone, you can use the app called Nostore in the app store to store your nsec. It acts as a singing device for your key. 🫂

The Nostr Report 2y ago

Zach 2y ago

😂😂😂

PABLOF7z 2y ago

😂😂😂😂😂💯💯

PABLOF7z 2y ago

Yes, clients asking for your nsec Ada way to login are a brutal anti pattern

⚡️ gTeL ☕ 2y ago

Browser apps o mobile looks like it has no way but type nsec.

Zach 2y ago

This looks promising, especially as more clients support it.

https://habla.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

Tony 2y ago

There’s a bunch working on supporting this already (don’t tell anyone yet 🤫)

Zach 2y ago

Watching everything develop the last several months has been very exciting!

Tony 2y ago

It’s growing exponentially too. Can’t keep up anymore. I guess I’m gonna die trying 😄

Zach 2y ago

I just hope it can stay decentralized. Are you aware of any sites or clients that have metrics to track how decentralized/centralized the protocol is?

PABLOF7z 2y ago

😂😂😂😂

Next microapp: clone #[13]

Tony 2y ago

Try NIP-46 login. More PWAs will support this soon

https://nsecbunker.com

Guide: https://lnshort.it/nsecbunker

armstrys 2y ago

Do you know what clients besides coracle.social, nostr.kiwi, and highlighter support this right now?

Jingles 2y ago

Copy and paste.

Stuart Bowman 2y ago

Nice work! nostr:npub1alpha9l6f7kk08jxfdaxrpqqnd7vwcz6e6cvtattgexjhxr2vrcqk86dsn may I ask, from a technical standpoint, how did you go about implementing the ability to follow communities? I'd like to ensure that Satellite and nostr.kiwi handle this in a way that does not fragment the user experience.

Jingles 2y ago

Using the list kind 30001, for each tag, [“a”,”3…:abc..:123..”], where d is communities. Need to double check to be sure.

Sedj 2y ago

Tried it, looks like a great start. Running in Brave, Win11. Took me a minute to figure out I needed to open it from the desktop shortcut, because although it worked in a Brave tab, it showed the phone frame, and required a lot of extra scrolling.

From the desktop shortcut, would be nice to have a Back button. Pretty easy to click on something you don't want to go to, and I haven't found a way to back out, like clicking on a user to view their profile (which doesn't show much). Also, seems pretty inconsistent at loading user names and profile pics (sometimes they load and disappear, sometimes they just fail to load at all, and sometimes they show up!)

I'm sure desktop isn't the primary use case - but that's my first early impressions as a potential future user...

(tried to post this from nostr.kiwi - fail)

Jingles 2y ago

Thanks for the feedback, yea, for sure there are work for UX

Jingles 2y ago

Hey. I just pushed some changes. It might have fixed a few things. Gonna add reply function now, app won’t be fun without the ability for people to reply.

⚡GhostBTC⚡ 2y ago

I cant post in a community 🤔🤔

Jingles 2y ago

Hey. Sorry for that happening. It should be fixed now.

Guy Swann 2y ago

Umm, do you guys have a live feed in the app preview because it’s all a bunch of nude images on my screen and it just keeps going if you scroll… 😅🤣

#nsfw by the way

GHOST 2y ago

Interesting marketing strategy

HoloKat 2y ago

😂 😂 getting wilder out there

GHOST 2y ago

Matthieu 2y ago

Yeah I saw a similar, but less consensual post as the first result.

Tony 2y ago

Kiwi’s marketing manager went rogue 😄

MRCX 2y ago

PABLOF7z 2y ago

😂😂😂😂😂 wtf is happening???

MRCX 2y ago

We tested https://nostr.kiwi and we discovered the 'bonus' content 😂

Cameri🐦‍🔥 2y ago

Kek

Jingles 2y ago

That’s how they #welcome and #introduce themselves 🤷‍♂️

PABLOF7z 2y ago

"wait nostr is just a porn app?"

StackSats.IO 2y ago

The Reddit degens are migrating 😂

Jingles 2y ago

Fun is over. 🥲

Did very simple filtering for home page.

On the bright side, lots of informative notes by nostr:npub10awzknjg5r5lajnr53438ndcyjylgqsrnrtq5grs495v42qc6awsj45ys7

inflationIStheft 2y ago

Hope this app blows up within 5 years

bumi 2y ago

nice!

looks promising.

what is the two-tap zap? (zaps did not work for me, btw.)

You could use NWC for 1tab zaps.

BitBees 2y ago

Would you give me a heads up when you send the bee sticker? If you have any left.

bumi 2y ago

they should be on the way.

Tony 2y ago

NWC is definitely a must have!

Jingles 2y ago

What’s a NWC by the way?

bumi 2y ago

NWC is a standardized way to interact with user's wallets through the nostr protocol.

You can easily allow people to connect their wallets to your app and you can send zaps.

have a look here:

https://nwc.getalby.com/about

JS code: https://github.com/getAlby/alby-js-sdk#quick-start-example

Jingles 2y ago

Got it.

bumi 2y ago

let me know if I can help you. It should be easy for you to integrate.

Tony 2y ago

👀

MRCX 2y ago

NIP-07 doesn't work for me.

Tony 2y ago

Doesn’t work for PWAs. Only from the browser. There’s lots of tuning ahead - be it for Kiwi or generally - nostr:npub1alpha9l6f7kk08jxfdaxrpqqnd7vwcz6e6cvtattgexjhxr2vrcqk86dsn will wake up to a storm of notifications 😄

Jingles 2y ago

Need to write some description/FAQ on the login page.

Sound Money 2y ago

nip-07 doesn't appear to work using Nostore ext in Safari on iPad

Jingles 2y ago

I just tested. It works on my iPhone, safari, login with nostore. Hmm..

yutaro 2y ago

👏👏👏

LWB 2y ago

This is looking slick asf

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charliesurf 2y ago

noice!