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"...and that's even without the possibility of promises written in some old books being fulfilled..."

Until the people acknowlegde the power of God and the one worthy King Jesus Christ, their governments will wrek everything around them with impunity. Your gold and your silver, and your bitcoin will not save you. Good luck being (poor) idol worshipers.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 10mo ago

yeah, i'm pretty sure the heavenly host is not just coming but already doing preliminary work prior to the promised intervention

maybe i only differ from you in believing that the angels have physical - and humanoid forms, as it clearly describes them "taking human wives" and producing cursed offspring, "giants" and that part of the reason for the Flood was to purge these abominations from the planet

i believe that this factually happened, and if you do a survey of ancient mythologies all across the world you will read about some similar and other different but a common theme to them will be the appearance of messengers who gave warnings and the survivors are the ones that heeded them... like the angels that visited Noah

i don't think it's really actually controversial to say these things but the Bible clearly says that angels are created beings but they are in the employ of God and do His will, and it has been some time since there was many reported sightings of them but that may well be because the modern languages and technologies gave people words to describe them more accurately.

but besides all that, they told enoch they would preside over a transition that would see the total destruction of the clade of fallen angels, of which several of them are supposed to be right now chained in some kind of prison on the planet somewhere

anyway

the thing is the roman catholics perverted the bible... even just the fact that there is versions of Enoch in old Orthodox slavonic libraries and the more recent discovery of the Ethiopian Orthodox version and the Jews even had a version of enoch... i've been meaning to read them all, but i'm too busy shitposting and writing code

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nbyte 10mo ago

Angels definately had the ability to take on human form before the flood. That power would appear to be limited post flood, and for good reason. Yet, God is alive, and will send his power where he wants to.

Still, taking human form is not necessary to rebuke the nations.

"Then I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds so they did not blow on the earth or the sea, or even on any tree." - Rev 7:1

Dispite the efforts or total lack of any by men, (read religious leaders) that result in perverting the word of God, The bible is whole. The word has been preserved to the golory of God. That, my friend is the good news.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 10mo ago

"take on human form" i think the thing about them is they can take on other forms like using telepathy and appearing as spooky shit like wheels with eyes and suchlike.

and holding back the weather, that sounds a lot like a massive magnetic based shield, and you need 4... why do you think there is 4 corners to the world? not because it's a flat square, because it's a tetrahedral pattern you need to apply it to run a full 360 shield around the planet

anyway, it's all the same to me, really, but i'm just saying that this stuff is all technology and if you read Enoch you will see that he clearly, and repeatedly makes a distinction between God and the King of the Angels (Jesus' father).

this is how i read it after reading through a lot of apocryphal genesis books and Enoch

and it doesn't make any material difference except that it means i can say that because all the science around geomagnetic effects and solar driving of weather, volcanism and earthquakes, and the declining trend and rapid movement of the earth's magnetic field that all of this makes perfect sense as signs as to why they might be coming - because they know, which we can't, barely even know, a few of us, that there is a terrible disaster coming - that this coming disaster will be a conflagration that will incinerate the world and would extinct humanity

which is a perfect opportunity to rescue the righteous and let the corrupt burn

nbyte 10mo ago

Your magnetic and tech talk strikes me as much the way astrologers of old saw and read the universe. We are mostly in agreement, I just try to steer clear of the magic practicers and idol worshipers. Astrology may have some accuracy, and technology is based on facts, yet we know very little.

This comes to mind:

"...For at present we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror, but then it will be face to face. At present I know partially, but then I shall know accurately..." - 1 Corinthians 13:12

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 10mo ago

that is the "through a looking glass darkly" - and that has been a meme throughout the last couple hundred years of science fiction and science at all

but yes, that is exactly how i'm seeing this right now... i have enough of an image now to see what is coming

it also says in several other places that "when it is close to the time, the signs will be there for all to see" and similar expressions about how we are charged with watching for the signs

these are the signs

the angels are coming, i'm sure of it, i've seen some videos of orbs and that whole dronegate thing last year smacked of the satanic establishment throwing up a bunch of drones to try and read data off them but also to try and say "oh, that's all us, there's no orbs"