the main issue is shadowbanning. Is there a way a nostr user can easily know his posts are being blocked/filtered/removed within your client. At the very least it will deter spammers continuing spamming into the ether if they know they are going nowhere.
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You see, what nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj disingenuously calls "shadowbanning" is simply an inability to show up on Primal's trending list. That's all. Visibility of these users is not restricted in any other way. nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj knows this, and his use of this framing indicates that he is not engaging in good faith.
I totally agree with your point that it should be easy to check which npubs are filtered, and be able to override that. We are building those tools as we speak.
why not give the chance to the user to customise their trending/most zapped list?
let them have the control and ability to mute if they see so fit 🤔
Ah I see, I agree that is not shadowbanning. Else the entire nostr community is shadowbanned if they aren't in the top 10 trending list which is silly. I'm glad to see you don't actually reduce visibility of users in any other way. Having filter lists that are knowable and check-able would be brilliant, keeps everything open and clear.
I don’t know, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then some may choose to call it a duck. I think it’s mainly the matter of transparency at this moment, regardless of the motives behind it. 🐶🐾🫡
Are you being transparent with these decisions? If so, where can we see/read?
I’m for removing spam but if we’re building a better mouse trap, I want to know that it’s actually a better mouse trap.
Stfu. Shadowbanning is exactly what you are doing on NOSTR. Its exactly what you are not supposed to do too.
Prude Mc Prude pants.
It’s not just the trending list. I can’t see nostr:npub12z8jsett3k6rv9fa2guau5p540qr2xuvjzkr8e432mglafjt99sqkw9zmx in Following, even though I’m following her.
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You don’t need them nostr:npub12z8jsett3k6rv9fa2guau5p540qr2xuvjzkr8e432mglafjt99sqkw9zmx , it’s not a client worthy of your art posts! Screw them! 🐶🐾🫂💜
Awe I appreciate this Fishcake! You da best 😁, but I know it’s not just only a primal thing. Just can’t figure out the rest .💜💫
No problems here. I know what's going on... so I go out of my way to visit her feed.
Great nature photos... what's all the fuss about?
The fuss is I used to be my authentic self and that’s not for most people. I’ve unfortunately had to censor myself quite a bit since I started here, as well as have nostr censor me in many ways. Not that I have to censor anything, nor should, but I’ve toned down because I actually respect some of this #community and some of you #plebs #plebchain. I’m not trying to make a big deal about it all. Been staying pretty quiet about it imo, jus reposting the topic for exposure about my silencing and shadow-banning. I get it, I understand others views , perspectives, judgments and beliefs. I’m just hoping one day #nostr will one day accept me, and others like me. Even tho it seems some #nsfw #content creators don’t get silenced like I do. I’m not entirely sure is a nsfw thing anymore. Think it’s beyond that. Starting to think I should have separate accounts, but to be honest I really don’t have time for that. 😅 All want is to be able to be myself. Anyways, I won’t give up nor be discouraged. I’m just more quiet and trying to figure out how to move forward best, for my mind body and soul.
Here, we are the algo. Many independent minded people will create ways to keep communication free and open. I also see the mess on nostr. Can be crazy shit posted, not my cup of tea.
Hopefully new clients and relays will solve this.
Thank you for explaining this