now we just need to grow the community.

any good ideas on how to do that?

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Start by DE emphasising zaps. They are important for sure, but they should be incidental, not central.

not sure youβ€˜re right on this. people follow people. if large creators would advertise nostr BECAUSE of zaps (they make money from platforms), it would have a snowball effect.

I’m not sure we are chatting about the same thing, or I am missing your point. My position is that zaps should not be central. The reason is because any meaningful IRL relationships I have do not involve any monetary exchange as a basis. I maintain that for nostr to grow based on relationships then zaps should be secondary or incidental. My 2 zaps πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈπŸ˜„

in a perfect world i totally agree with you but i believe community growth needs to be incentivised somehow.

in my opinion social media "relationships" are mostly one-sided. as in many people on here know nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqyehwumn8ghj7mnhvvh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7ctewe4xcetfd3khsvrpdsmk5vnsw96rydr3v4jrz73hvyu8xqpqsg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q8dzj6n, but jack knows only a handful.

my argument is that for the nostr community to grow, you need many more large accounts to advocate for and use nostr. then people follow them to a new platform (or protocol);

and whether this is good or bad, monetary incentives for creators are important - which could be zaps here.

if the goal is to grow nostr, i am not sure how else to achieve that.

We don't need to convince the masses.

We just need to redesign the foundations!

to what end if not grow and make nostr flourish?

To give people the option for freedom.

They must choose it for themselves.

that is an honourable goal.

i hope people are as idealistic as you need them to be for this to be enough.

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If we enable creators to make more money than they do on platforms, then they will come to nostr, bring their audience and talk about their better experience.

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