US health care is so bad that Doctors, a group of people with the brains, the resources, and the network that I would otherwise assume could fight for themselves, are choosing to unionize.

Let that sink in.

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Why would you think a skilled group like doctors would be any different to a skilled group like engineers?

I don't know. But there are clear limits to individualism.

Engineers don't unionize, at least where I've worked. We don't need to.

The unions won't even let engineers sit in on the union meetings to figure out if they want to join or not. Guess we call the unions out on their shortcomings, lies and gaslighting. 😂

Engineers work with reality. I guess that disqualifies them from unions 😂

Some do, for example I recall a conversation with my uncle about engineers who were designing and manufacturing lifts/elevators.

But I wonder how much "smarts" and "skill" has to do with it vs being a key player in the "current" industry in the eyes of the state.

Tech is currently the top tier in the west, and lets be fair, the US extracts all the value between its insurance and medical bills circle jerk. A perfect system to draw money from the printer and yet rush it past the patients, doctors, the hospital and pretty much anyone but the financial middlemen.

The plandemic has shown that doctors do not honor the Hippocratic Oath. Instead, they follow herd mentality and do not have the ability to think critically beyond what an authority tells them. They are a class of workers of the lowest form, ripe for unionization.

lol

I know Doctors who cannot afford to have their own practices because the doctor has been priced out.

I’m not surprised. They are the equivalent of legal drug dealers

They are the equivalent of corporate minions

Is Crowd Health the solution?

Everyone should unionize, brains or no brains. Building alliances with others you share some common interests with is just a smart move if you want to attchieve something. Unions versus individualism is a false dichotomy.

Unions have poor incentives, are political in nature, very corruptible, and do more harm than good to the individual worker by drowning them out. In essence, they are a microcosm of the failings of socialism.

Unions are interested groups. There are interested groups of industries and employers, so why not also for workers.

As long as they are not mandatory, it's legitimate

Who needs radiologists when software does 99% of the work of parsing & analyzing medical images? I mean someone has to snap the pic and then sign the report I guess, but for 250k/yr?

I have never met a patient that wanted AI to take a look in their own radiology. Even when they use AI, the patient is asking the doctor for his/her opinion.

250k to present results as their own opinion as a patient platitude is a lot IMO.

It isn't like software development and generative AI, where humans can effectively operate at higher levels than existing software; radiology at least IME has been inverted this way for years.

AI still isn’t good enough. Maybe one day but not now, by itself. Geoffrey Hinton was wrong.

Image processing and analysis is decades old, and has been far more accurate than humans at radiology

But hey if america needs to pay huge sums for soneone to say "I concur" so patients feel good, so be it.

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Solo practice is defunct and now they are at the mercy of the insurance companies and “health” networks. They have to comply with algorithmic care, work harder, get penalized for taking too much time with patients, with fixed pay while inflation eats their salaries. A union is the way to fight back.