LMAO. I really, really need to remove 1/3 of my Relays. I have used 8 GB of mobile data over the past 7 days. I will be going through them this weekend and deciding which ones to keep and which ones to put on the chopping block.

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Can you provide a list of the ones you keep?

I will.

What concerns me is that by circulating a 'list' of relays we inadvertently centralize relays and that would be bad.

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That's what clients already do when they come with a list of recommended relays.

That said I believe this is how it's supposed to work. If you want to see my content, you at least subscribe to read access to the relays I use and if you want to comment you have to have write access.

Well, maybe not all of them, but at least one of them. Right?

I think so but we are entering into territory that I don't think anyone fully understands. I say this because network theory (at least what I know from biology) is insanely hard to comprehend.

Fuck it! I'm all in AF!

More than your final list, I would love to see a description of your criteria and methodology for determining the best relays. (If you’re up for it :)

Oh wow you have 28 relays lmao

i know..... im baaaad. 

I had about 15 relays ~1week ago and was experiencing poor performance on several clients. Ppl recommended I pair down to 5-8 relays, and things have been great since. Caveat:

1 week in Nostr == 1 month in Bitcoin == 1 year in Earthtime

I had 37 relays last week, so i've gotten rid of some of them :P

First step is admitting it

ty sir. you get me.

Gm! What’s your criteria and process to pick and choose relays?

My methodology will be based on relays on different continents, ping times, popular relays, default relays used by clients, relays used by popular users, relays used by certain people I follow. I'd like to get down to 12 and and see how that goes. I'm sure a lot of relays will tick a lot of these boxes too. Maybe I'll make a spreadsheet. People love spreadsheets!

Sick. Spreadsheet would be a good start. As we refine and weight these metrics, I could see relay ranking systems emerge similar to Lightning router rankings

I don't know if this will be super scientific, but I will try my best to use the categories or methods I mentioned earlier.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HmHZNaGyrGZlI_y-d21vOeqKyo08dAY4WXZaTa5yTFo/edit?usp=sharing

Seems like a great starting point. I am a data analyst, lmk if I can help at all

Could you check on our Kenya relay too?

wss://nostr-1.nbo.angani.co

Followed.

I'm thinking that for every 3 "solid" relays we should include one wimpy ass "outlier" so that one gets connected AF and becomes kinda beefy.

Or am I just not understanding this at all?

right, we probably should not all just load up on popular relays, it may be best to spread the love and actually decentralize instead of recreating a small centralized network.

28 relays?!?!?

I know. I am bad. 😞

Stacking GBs! Let us know list!

I used to have an unlimited data plans but since I started working from home about 3 years ago, I am on WiFi all of the time and don't need it any longer. I may go back to unlimited for another $10 a month so I can use nostr 😆 Or maybe I just clean up my relays. I'll post before the purge for sure.

Nostr increasing your data plan is 🙌

I knew nostr would change my life 😆🤙

For the better?

It has! I am super happy and excited with what #[2] and I have been able to build together. It's so much more than just a website. We are really building services and support for the nostr ecosystem. It's just all so mind blowing.

Now ask my wife and she'll disagree she she hasn't seen much of me for a couple weeks. 👀

Damn, I need to get verified quick as a Nostr OG on NosterPlebs before this thing goes to the App Store. First task tomorrow morning!

😆😆 I think you'll be fine. If you need any help lemme know or hit up our live chat.

I like how you take care of guiding the plebs on nostr 🤙

Try member.cash for (much) lower bandwidth usage.

I appreciate the recommendation, but it's a shitcoin site that uses bitclout.

It's getting a lot of positive feedback, but i guess if you need to stay pure for your brand, it's not gonna be for you. use it in secret maybe.

it's not for my brand. it's for me as a human. im happy that they've found away to incorporate bitclout and nostr for the technical aspect of it - cool. i just would not use it nor recommend it since the vast majority of the world knows what bitclout is and represents.

🤝

🤙

I got a notification from AT&T that I had used a massive amount of bandwidth this month and it was only the 5th. 😬

The struggle is real 🤙

Maybe avatars as well

Are you relays currently warming your home?

This is the next evolution in home mining for sure. Use old phones to constantly check your nostr feed.

For sure 🤣

good point.

I guess this is where web clients make sense. Let the server deal with the webclient. Just send me the aggregated data.

I strictly using web clients...

Well… I’m out of ideas then. Maybe it is the profile pics?

it probably a combination of profile pics and because of the amount of relays that im reading and writing from. i need to trim it down a bit.

I wonder if we could sic Wireshark on this and determine "best read/write practices" on this issue.

I'll have an update on the Nostrum search engine in an hour or two that will show you the relays with the largest number of users, which should help you make a decision about which ones to keep.

astral also don't fetch efficiently rn. working on updating this.

👀 my data plan thanks you

How will you choose? I have 35 and know I need to cut that down but no idea where to start!

Thanks for sharing that! Gotta figure out a way to look as Gmail won't let you make an anon email afaik.. I mean you can but need a recovery email

my bad. i thought i made it unrestricted. i fixed it.

Ah you da best! Thanks 🤙

This is impressive! Noon qu, how can you tell which relay your post hits first?

I was just watching the relays pop up as seen. I'm not sure if these is even a good metric, but it's something I noticed.

I’m only on 10 and one is a small personal one and Damus works great.