It may be true that bankers are behind both sides, but the right wing wasn't floating the idea of taking children away from parents because they don't want to transition them.

Let's take a step back and gain some perspective here. No one is saying the fight is over, but let's be real. The left jumped the shark.

They went full degenerate commie and did so world wide.

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Do you have any points that the left is swinging towards communism? I hope you at least know what communism is? Because for example in the US there is no one in parlament with forces towards communism.

This is the fallacy in the west. I hate all the governments, however the left in the west has this tendency to pretend being for the greater good and funding public services with tax money which is usually their smoke-screen and rug-pull.

The right on the other hand pretends so hard that these neo-liberals are communists or socialists without understanding that Marx' topics focus on economy, capital and distribution of goods, labour and money. Not sexual orientation, personal life-style or race. Agree or disagree with his freedom of speech, but atleast represent things accurately and not make false comparisons is what I say to the westen "right". Their smoke-screen is freedom-love to cover up war against China instead of the middle east and Russia that the dems and republicans alternate between targetting.

In europe left and right mean various different things in those countries. The social democrats seem to be what we call conservatives in the west, and the Pro USA parties are pushing LGBT indoctrination, decadence bankruptcy.

The communists in china are beating the Anglo-Saxon-American capitalists at their own game, and Europe is going bankrupt due to being cut off from cheap energy at the orders of the masters in the west.

2025 is going to be interesting on both domestic and international relations levels.

I think the terms communism, left, right, capitalism aren't relevant in todays world anymore. They dont exist.

There is so much overlap, and right wingers who agree with some left wingers on certain issues and vice versa.

The biggest concern these days for most places is "DOES YOUR LEADER LOVE YOUR COUNTRY AND DID LIFE IMPROVE?"

I dont see any of that in the west, and alot of it in the east....

The American century is over and the baton has passed.

I go with you that too many focus too much on boxes as left end right. May we should accept, that we are in the era of information. And rather focus on arguments instead of the person who is expressing it.

Since in the end it does not matter if it is Trump or Biden, Kamala or Musk. Or whatever person in the world. I think what matters most is the decisions we all take. And if we can legitimate those in a way, that is reasonable to others.

Since we as free people are quiet good in seeing the difference between good and bad in atomic actions.

Is peace or war preferable?

Is liberty or slavery preferable?

Is equality or monarchy?

Power to the people or power to the rich?

Better argue with words or violence?

Better to convince or to threaten?

I see it as a good habit to qualify atomic actions instead of persons as a whole.

I like that elon musk is driving innovation for electric cars, hyperloop transportation and space transportation, since it gives more opportunities to humanity.

I dislike how Musk is using his financial power to boost his words over those of other people threw to buy of twltter.

Musk is getting senile

i think for a long time he really tried to deliver good services and goods to humanity. Now it seems he tries to use his trust and power to increase his influence and is becoming more and more narcisitic and egocentric.

Is this a serious question or bait for a Twitter like "discussion" of straw men and intellectual dishonesty?

It is a serious question. Since ghe word communism is often used. But I did not yet see, factual explenation, which actions one thinks are going towards communism.?

Give some real actions of the broad left going towards communism. So this means it is a consensus of the left. Not a single persone voting for something most from his or her party do not even support. Like from an official plan of a party.

You're discussing this as a frog in the pot looking for proof that the water is getting hotter.

You don't see it or feel it because you're saturated it in and are perhaps looking for soviet style economic model, which would be incorrect. Communism is a worldview. Not just an economic model. It is a materialistic and atheist worldview with its own dogmas. It is all encompassing but can be discerned by those that place the state over the individual.

Before the communist (or leftists, of you prefer) are able to achieve their utopian model, they have to first destroy what is. They do so through division. Marx initially sought class warfare between the working class and the bourgeoise. That worked on some areas.

Since the early 1920's, the communists in the United States recognized that race would be the best social driver for change and revolution.

The entire post-modern movement is Marxist at its core. We have sitting senators with portraits of Mao in thier homes. Soviet style art work and messaging are so common in the Democrat campaigns that we don't even recognize it anymore. It started with Obama, but is most pronounced with AOC. We have extremely vocal democratic socialist movement in the Democrat party. In fact, any time you hear "Our democracy", you can be sure, that they are talking about the central planners vision of the global order. It's not just the US. It's globally coordinated and connected.

Ok. So actually it is a theory you are beleaving in rather then aomething that you can proove with facts. I base reality most on facts instead on assumptions based on assumptions mixed with some mabys.

Reality is, that there is a person about to becom president, that does not respect laws, nor respects women or people with different opinions. A person that calls people with different opinions enemies from within. These are facts.

Also a fact is that this person went bankrupt. So based on this it is rather a person that is willing to go high risk instead of trying to go for consistency. Value his opinion above science. Value his personal intrest above the intrest of anyone else.

No, the fact is that you are indoctrinated.

If you believe those things about Trump, it's because you can't discern truth from fiction.n you have your trusted sources of information and don't give it any critical thought. Probably why you believe the global move to communism is opinion.

🤷‍♂️ Who knows.

No I base my worldview really on facts. You do not even bring up a single fact nor do you falsify any of my claims. So all you offered here has ben nothing but your opinion based on nothing.

May one day you learn about critical thinking and learn what are arguments.

Ok Twitter debater. Enjoy your life.

Look I can understand that one feels anxious for all the fast changing world we live in today. For the fast information exchange we have today, I think it is more important then in other times to keep calm and consider some facts to have a commen ground of discussion.

I am really intrested in learning from each other. And I am sure you know about a lot of issues I do not. I may just miss some key information I did not yet read about. Therefore I was asking you for specific Hypothesis and what facts support those to get a common ground.

You could start with 2 books. The Naked Communist, and The Naked Capitalist.

Thanks. So nr. one is a Book from 1958 and the second in 1970.

I know that there are truth, which were true then that are still true today. For example gravity, the freezing temperature of water and so on.

And some general social behaviour as conservated in "animal farm" or "Big Brother 1984" defnitly still have lot of truth in it.

But I can not beleave, that some strategy that was may even at work in the 1960's or 1970's would have a big influence on our world today.

Believe what you want, but your line of logic is why people believe the 2nd amendment isnt relevant today because they had muskets when it was written.

I'm not here to argue or change your mind. If you're asking, genuinely, then that's the place I suggest you start.

Thanks for your understanding and sharing your sources 🙌

Have a great day 🙃