Retard here, whats IPFS?
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a decentralized file protocol
Is that really a good idea?
very good idea
Sounds like Filecoin or Chia coin is that what your talking about? It also kinda sounds like the Network protocol failure that was Helium mining. POW is all that matters in my eyes. Anything else is a money making scheme I couldn’t care less for.
filecoin is ipfs with crypto
This is what I'm talking about with Nostr. No matter what you say, eventually people come in and start talking about shitcoins.
They should just make Nostr all be on one big, happy blockchain with a big, happy Nostrcoin and be done with it.
Let me guess you own shit coins. 😑
I own zero cryptocurrency of any kind.
Do you at-least own some type of investment, besides real-estate? Don’t tell me your purely fiat?
That is none of your business.
I’ll take that as a yes 🤣
Take it however you like, but I'll remind everyone here that, once again, a Nostr thread has been turned into "bitcoin vs fiat" - just like every other conversation around here.
You people can't think of anything else. It occupies the deepest recesses of your mind.
its not necessarily the nostr tech but that the people that started nostr like #[11] are all into bitcoin and they pulled bitcoiners here first so that is a topic always on their minds, likely because they have or want to make money, bitcoin is a ponzi and the more in the higher the value, it can however serve as money and replace fiat but so can many things
The kind of money I use isn't worth wasting my precious time on earth thinking about, except to be wary of pitfalls and to try to choose the least awful situation.
I don't think an argument about whether dog shit or bird shit tastes better is really worth engaging in.
On the other hand, free speech is extremely important, and that doesn't have to require any special currency.
The people who serve mammon want to attach their currency (whether it be dollars or bitcoin or whatever) to literally everything, though, because they care about nothing other than getting rich quick without actually working.
Discuss any topic, and the people here will immediately discuss how they can do it with bitcoin.
"Oh cool, you went traveling? Yeah, I imagine someday we'll be able to travel without needing fiat, it'll all be bitcoin!"
"The weather is nice where you are? Yeah, I bet we could crowdsource more accurate forecasts by using bitcoin donations"
"Oh wow, that post you just made about
Etc.
So it’s wrong to treat Bitcoin as a hobby even if it’s a financial revolution? You want to see “occupies the deepest recesses of your mind” go talk to some dedicated dungeons and dragons fans. Or dedicated sports fans. What’s wrong with having a dedicated community of Bitcoin fans? Does it ruffle your feathers that much people want to see actual change in the financial system? Shitcoins devalue Bitcoin as a brand and currency so it’s only natural Bitcoin maxis disagree with that core idea that is shitcoins even if some of them help bring innovation to Bitcoin that would otherwise take longer without them.
I don't care about bitcoin vs any other coin, it's all the same made-up currency, all pushed by the same grifters. And yes, dollars are also made-up. None of that is worth dwelling on.
I'm here to try to get at least some of you to wake up to the fact that you've replaced your entire personality, whatever it used to be, with bitcoin and stock charts.
do you not see nostr as a good potential social platform?
I see Nostr as Jack Dorsey's test subject for blue sky or w/e his next social media project is
no bluesky is different, its actually very similar to mastodon, nostr originated completed seperately from jack, jack has only just got involved and he is only having partial influence on design
#[12] has been quite open why he did bluesky and why he likes nostr, to sum it up no one person or entity should control this
It has a lot of potential, but the userbase is absolute F-tier trash in terms of having anything useful to say. I have not once seen a conversion in the wild here about
- God, the afterlife, the problem of evil
- Humanity and salvation (aside from saving it with bitcoin)
- Deranged conspiracy theories that actually have a lot of evidence
- Calling out lies of media (aside from lies about inflation/interest)
Or any other actually kind of interesting thing.
Just zaps all day, and people screaming that bitcoin is *so totally different* from all those other coins.
Bitcoin is in a way silly. However it’s just a lot less silly than anything else real-estate is unaffordable as an investment for a majority of people.
Shitcoins are just all inflated crap no different to NFT’s where they can be created and it never ends.
All fiat can is inflated to infinity.
Gold supply is dictated by it’s price.
I agree I would say there is Bitcoin maxis that treat Bitcoin like a cult rather than an investment or currency but if your gonna be in any cult it’s about the best cult you can be in. Doesn’t harm a single person but the traditional financial system and in the end you profit on the side. I’d even go as far to say it’s a better “cult” than Christianity 😉
People compare it to tulip mania but tulip mania was a bubble because tulips aren’t scarce it’s just common sense Bitcoin is truly scarce it written in the fundamental code.
No one has even done a successful attack on Litecoin yet and it runs on a inferior less secure POW algorithm. The chances of a Bitcoin attack ever happening and being successful are so incredibly small. Even if the CCP tried to attack BTC they’d be unsuccessful.
Bitcoin is real hard money every other currency in history beside precious metals are Monopoly money.
Look at this. Your brain is so steeped in currency that you can't step away from it.
I tell you that people here can't talk about anything other than cryptocurrency, no matter what kind, and then you go and prove my point.
What drives the price of bitcoin given that it can’t be spent on any real tangible goods?
No my brain is steeped in securing a future for my future family. God isn’t gonna do it for me. My boss isn’t gonna do it for me.
The only person who can create a life better than the one I grew up in for my kids is me. Pray all you want but you have to step up and build the life for yourself. Bitcoin not only secured my wealth it grows my wealth and that I can be guaranteed of. More than anything else at-least.
Bitcoin isn’t with 100% certainty but it’s the closest thing to it. Who am I gonna trust with my currency the government? A company in the S & P 500? Ha what a joke.
nothing is wrong with bitcoin having a community and the brilliance of #[12] is to have nostr expose people to bitcoin on nostr which is the most promising decentralized social ever in no small part because it is built on the tech and experience of bitcoin and lightning, the problem some just dont like bitcoin like some might not like many other things so for everyone nostr needs curation tools to go all the way
people like privacy
owning fiat is fucking stupid
the bitcoiners view themselves apart from shitcoins, they also understand the limitations of blockchains hence nostr and lightning are not on blockchains
"No babe, I'm not like all those other girls, I'm different, I'm actually smart, like, okay?"
yep exactly, but credit where credit is due bitcoiners have some good ideas
its interesting that the fediverse decentralize community didnt come to make nostr tho it is quite similar to irc
the founders of nostr did use their fedi experience tho to decide on nostr, so the fedi has served as a stepping stone
bridging as well is helping as i am already sick of fucking zap talk
I might make a relay or at least some sort of filtering capabilities that automatically blocks any mention of zaps or bitcoin, but then I'd be throwing out 99% of this place's traffic.
Nothing of value would be lost, though.
Holy shit that would be awesome
that type of filter is not really something you want on a relay but more a client, and really you want clients to be able to use custom filters and interact with them at the relay, like a lens or a... iris lol
delegated follows and blocks will allow you to construct a feed or clean up global quite easily
relays could be made to use delegation too
nostr should adopt a p2p hashed id system for media then clients could choose to ask a relay or peer for it
Interplanetary Filesystem, basically a P2P filesharing protocol that addresses content based on IDs (like hashes) instead of location (like a webserver URL)
You think that will come soon to Nostr?
yep or something like it
test webtorrent in iris
How
Wait I already have webtorrent lol
i think you just attach a file
I attached 2 😏
nope thats not it those were uploaded to a server you must have to make a web torrent and paste the link let me try
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:5e899284765987adb91f2ca7d4b9dffca903f434&dn=NsIgSBhQSpzwgkuP.mp4&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.btorrent.xyz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openwebtorrent.com&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.empire-js.us%3A1337
yep you paste a magnet link
IPFS has had a lot of hype, but there are significant drawbacks to it. I don't know specifics, but I think they have a hard time getting the block size (smallest possible amount of transfer) right.
The other downside is that you have to run a server locally, but I'm sure a genius will figure out how to just do that in the browser like everything else.
They're on the right track, but I imagine if it gains traction that it will turn into another RIAA/MPAA witch hunt to effectively kill it.
its quite heavy on resources tho