They are all terrible, though.
Discussion
simplex telegram jami etc seems to work
others r centralized
Oops meant to say
nostr:npub1exv22uulqnmlluszc4yk92jhs2e5ajcs6mu3t00a6avzjcalj9csm7d828 👍
that one
It's not private enough. I am looking for something better than SimpleX. Something that has onion routing backed into it (no way to run without it) while at the same time natively paying for forwarding messages to reduce the likelihood of them selling their user's metadata to be able to sustain their operations.
OK sounds good - simplex hosting n client SOCKS5 proxy on .onion is simple
It's not enough to just run over Tor. The SimpleX protocol suggests creating a separate Tor session for each of your contacts. Otherwise the server still knows too much. Just putting them into Tor reduces the metadata, but not by much.
In my version, I want to go further and put each message in a separate Tor route, which is probably too slow. Tor wasn't made for this level of privacy.
nostr is superior to simplex in 2 aspect
1. nsec far easy than simplex profile backup+data
2. Simplex cannot work with browser only client like notsr do , downloading appimage or portable .exe is must.
1. SimpleX runs on public/private keypairs just like nostr but the UI to manage them separately from the database isn't there.
https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/issues/2859
2. A browser-only SimpleX is totally feasible someone just has to write it.
nice points 2 discuss V's idea good also