haha! no, most people don't even understand what cult manipulation and induction techniques are, they just say you are annoying if it doesn't gel with them

you aren't obviously love bombing them because you are obviously doing the opposite, causing a challenge, and this is causing them to be repulsed

but that's life, they have different programs, and if your rationales don't work for them, you can interrogate them more, and gently, and more kindly, and maybe you can find a way

but it's really hard to reason with people about time preference

most people barely even can reason about next year let alone 4 years ahead

bitcoin luvs come from 5-10 years of experience

nobody tried to persuade me, it was just the money i needed to be able to trade for fiats if i was going to sell drugs, and later, to buy drugs from strangers in this business, i had traction on crypto very early, just not the maximalism, that took years to develop