Well, they inadvertently give room for interventionism by being too focused on ends rather than means.
Discussion
Be specific?
Calling for shitcoins to be classified as securities and encouraging the govt to go after them, setting precedent for accumulating reserves through asset forfeitures, shilling tether.
We're stuck with the state, yes.
But none of these will help us get unstuck.
Calling for consistency is how I see what you're alluding to.
Their premise, either call founder led sales of securities a security or get rid of all the laws for everyone.
The government already set a precedent for accumulating reserves through assets forfeiture...wake up! GM.
They got those coins ages ago, why didn't they sell?
I think the interesting conversation is to predict how the state aparatus will act.
Getting that right or wrong is where you win.
Trying to force your moralistic view onto others or onto the state aparatus is a losing battle.
This is why I don't vote, to keep myself as neutral as possible - this helps me predict outcomes & it's how I've been successful in life.
'Forcing' a moralistic view is something one does when they call for the state to intervene where they are not supposed to.
That's a harsh word to use for what we do when we have online conversations with the goal of convincing those we talk to.
What we are doing is calling for less government. Which means less force by default. I don't want the state apparatus to take a moral ground on anything. I actually don't want the state apparatus to do anything. That's where I'm coming from.
I agree with your wants, I have the same wishes.
Are they utopic? Probably.
Lobbying government is part of the process humans go through with respect to the state aparatus.
I find it hard to imagine people stopping to do this, even the ones who agree with you on shrinking government intervention.
Re: If someone feels the state aparatus is here to stay, they might fall into the purview of lobbying it to accomplish their bidding.
A tragedy of the commons type scenario if you will.
Lobbying them to stop lobbying is quite obviously pushing your moralistic view onto them.
I find this to be a waste of time, as the response will be them pushing their moralistic view onto you.
Stay neutral & observe - in essence, judge less.
You're describing reality as it is. I hear what you're saying. You're saying it's simply how things are and want me to face it. I am with you there.
But I do believe there are people who truly care about freedom in its true sense, so it's very important to keep talking about what ought to be.