We need more writers.
Documentation writers.
Article writers.
Wiki page writers.
etc.
If Nostr is Internet 2.0, it needs some actual webpages, and our webpages are long-form notes.
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I agree nostr:npub1m4ny6hjqzepn4rxknuq94c2gpqzr29ufkkw7ttcxyak7v43n6vvsajc2jl. Also more investigative journalism (Which seems to be largely dead these days). It's dead through fear of persecution. #Nostr, to me, seems like an ideal platform to publish such data, anonymously, if need be, but a great place just to get it out there, without censorship.
When will all data from the Panama papers be mirrored on nip-54 wikis
That was a great/harrowing book to read. Cunts will be cunts eh😕.
Power corrupts and absolute power, corrupts, absolutely.
Do it. 🤷♀️
Thought about it. Not sure how. A start would be making a good list of all the related leaks, Panama papers, Paradise papers, Pandora papers etc, with links to all the best info sources. I don't even know how to find those links tbh.
There's so much leaked data of that type we need a specialized app (doesn't have to be a client, can just copy and paste for input/output) converting pages from other formatting (wikitext, HTML, etc) to nip-54, so humans just have to check the previews and fix the mistakes.
The question is also which relay. Anything hosted in the EU, Russian, or Australia can get easily shut down by the hosting company, for instance, even if the material is not actually illegal.
So how do we set up a relay farm in the middle of the ocean where it isn't under the thumb of any government?
If relays were built to be small, fast and efficient, using a small, fast, and efficient language, and incorporated a DNS alternative, a million+ relays could be run on SBCs. Combined with a desktop application using nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s's nostrdb, so that 100% uptime isn’t required, it would be damn near unstoppable.
I like to write, but more because of distraction. Nothing important
No. It's the other way round.
Nostr doesn't need more writers or webpages. Existing writers and webpages need Nostr.
Writers can benefit from Nostr’s architecture to secure their content against censorship and downtime, while existing webpages should evolve into Nostr clients to enhance their reliability and reach.
Nostr doesn't need its own Nostr writers or Nostr musicians or Nostr streamers or Nostr wiki page writers, we're not a walled garden, Nostr is just an infrastructure to be used by all.
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It is difficult to develop high-quality software without constructive interaction with power users utilizing the software in a realistic way.
There is a positive feedback loop.
Also, my request is also that people rethink pouring all of their knowledge and wisdom into Kind 01 notes and consider writing long-form articles and pages, instead.
Wish #Amethyst would let me fork/edit longform+wiki notes. The walled garden is so strong! 😭
Kiwi browser + nos2x is a foss android solution for web apps that require browser extension login
Yes, that works well. I use that for Nostrudel.
Kiwi browser is based on chrome and has not had an update in YEARS, therefore riddled with unfixed vulnerabilities.
I just realized that you're saying that Amethyst let's you edit and fork Kind 01 notes, but not long-form ones.
That is somehow upside-down implementation.
Long-form articles are going to be one of the most popular entrances to Nostr, as they will start getting picked up by search engines, as they usually are high-signal.
They are also the documents that we will tend to archive (long-term, for free to the writer) and promoting in Nostr-internal information searches.
That is, after all, why we are coming up with specific relays for this data, such as wss://TheCitadel.nostr1.com
I've said many times that tweets (= kind 1's) should be short. Long-form tweets are an abomination.
I think she is trying to get everyone to write for other Nostr apps like wikifreedia. I read it as hey take those short notes and expand to add more to the long form Nostr apps, nothing about changing the current kind 1s .... I don't know what kind 1s are but I'm assuming it's short tweet like notes ... She wants people to build their words. But I could be wrong ... She has been asking people to write articles for weeks now. We ALSO need dorks who like to write long form. I think it's two completely different points of views that is needed.
I get this, but there needs to be an intermediate “kind” then. Some posts take more than 140 characters, but don’t merit full long-form, article treatment.
The difference between articles and tweets is not primarily one of length.
Whatever it is, there are many cases of wanting to say something that requires more space than a tweet, but that you don’t want to be archived as one of your longer-form pieces, lest you dilute their quality.
But I agree there is something elegant about succinct Kind 1 posts of the type Gigi has in his thread.
The problem I've had with 🧵on Nostr (as opposed to X) is that they tend to arrive disjointedly, incompletely, or in the wrong order (or the client reorders them). So, I try to space a complete thought over multliple posts and someone jumps on one section and ignores the other parts or can't even see the others.
They can't do that, with an article, as if they link to it at all, they always link to the entire thing.
I’ve found on Twitter, the first post gets 10x the views of the middle posts when you make them into a thread. I’ve found on nostr, few people engage with the long form post kind (you allude to this in your article), and more engage with it in Kind 1.
But I’ve struggled with this general problem in my work for a while. I have a substack. I only send out long-form, more thought-out, edited posts to my email subs. I want to post more, and I have a ton of ideas, but I don’t want to fill up their email boxes with posts like the one I’m writing now. Where to put the intermediate ones if not Kind 1 on nostr/Twitter?
It's a balance. 🤷♀️
Since this is a software project, we can actually agitate for them giving more pride-of-place to articles, but only if we use the kinds. They respond to the user's habits because they don't want to waste their time. That is why I'm going to engage more with articles.
If you go there, they will build it.
And it is really helpful to the devs if their users write technical documentation. That is often of higher-quality, more avidly maintained, and more targeted to users who don't have insight into the code.
It is also an indirect form of beta testing.
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Can you send me an original acapella freestyle to a 90 BPM metronome? I will DM an email and turn around a produced track. You can use it, to whatever you end you like. I need some at bats as a producer.
lol, this is the most unnecessary ratio I’ve seen on Nostr
all she said was “hey, let’s get some more technical writing going” 😂😂
She also reframed what I wrote, in order to use my post as a foil to talk about what SHE wanted to talk, which was something completely different.
I wasn't talking about onboarding anyone. It was a call for people to write long-form notes instead of only microblogging.
This is the second time within a week that someone with a big account did this to me.
Yeh I’ve noticed the strawmanning increase lately. I’m getting a similar treatment over on X.
It could be laziness associated with the crab market, or exhaustion from the negativity online leading to these people having knee-jerk reactions.
Sucks when it’s a big account though.
Well, it has a rather simple counter-tactic, that you don't really have on X.
Put anything you feel strongly about in long-form notes, which are completely different events and usually require an extra click to see. They generally ignore those.
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In an AI driven media apparatus on top of a 21st century global surveillance tolerant society, content generation isn't a problem, it's easier than ever before.
What we fundamentally need is a widespread basic literacy of digital provenance.
The Internet is already full of generated content.
Check out Guy Swan's recent AI Unchained episode. He hints at the potential for an entangled nostr.
Chatgpt can do all of this in a minute.
Sometimes, it's worrying that a bot can do better writing than yourself even though you have spent more time for the writing.
But, it shouldn't demoralize a writer to do more work.
I wrote it all down.
You can also view it in Highlighter
I'm having a boomer moment with Highlighter. I click "comment," but it doesn't give me any space to type my comment, it just posts an empty note.
Highlighter is a construction site, right now. Pablo says he's working on some major overhaul. Maybe switching web libraries, or something, as it's not really mobile-friendly.
I think clients will display an embed if you use the nostr: URL schema
nostr:naddr1qvzqqqr4gupzphtxf40yq9jr82xdd8cqtts5szqyx5tcndvaukhsvfmduetr85ceqqxnzde3xuunzdfhx5urvd3svn58s7
#Freerse doesn't display it #[4]
nostr:naddr1qqxnzde3xuunzdfhx5urvd3sqgsd6ejdteqpvse63ntf7qz6u9yqspp4z7ymt8094urzwm0x2ceaxxgrqsqqqa289ylst9
How about 100% uptime infrastructure? For ‘Internet 2.0’, I realized that with relays that I could generalize NIP-47 to handle any kind of back-end api call without relying on the presence of an api endpoint, just expose an npub operating in a privileged context listening for its calls.