Honestly hate to say but recommended normie geared tools to your normie friends.
Don't recommend SimpleX, and other complex stuff.
Recommend tools like Primal, and signal, get them to the halfway point if possible first then find ways to encourage them to use better tools.
SimpleX has too many flaws, and it's been that way for over a year with no indication of change.
Just because software is Freedom Tech does not mean it's good, or worthy of serious consideration.
If my car randomly dies every few miles, I don't care what philosophy was behind it, or that it can auto-detect rain.
Well, that's my point is.
People aren't going to use tool likes Session, Threema, SimpleX, Element/Matrix, Viper, etc. protocols since they're more complex.
Signal is the sweetspot of UX, and technical soundness, even if SimpleX is slightly better from a technology privacy aspect.
Every tool needs to be designed with the signal mindset but we need to improve UX in general to be more similar to whatsapp/we chat, discord, and telegram like user base because they're catered to normies, not privacy schizos.
We need to enable Privacy Schizo tools to be usable by normies.
First, it should pass functionality tests
Second, it should pass usability tests
Third, it should surpass usability minimums
SimpleX doesn't function.
For me, it works good enough but I recommend Signal to my normies friends.
I use the best tools for who I need to talk to while trying to maintain my privacy.
yeah I stopped trying to get normies on Simplex and just use it for sensitive convos
it isn't intuitive
but I don't get "it doesn't function"
i have my own relays
it literally functions on my own infrastructure š¤·
Yeah it works pretty well
I launched SimpleX a few days ago and it was telling me that messages from person X were coming from person Y š¤¦š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļø. It did this for several messages. š¤®
It gave me some other serious bugs at the same time.
There are plenty of options that pass the functionality tests for basic electronic communication.
Prior to this experience, I've seen where it doesn't send a message, and doesn't inform the sender. Conversations with pieces missing, and no error anywhere, is a "show stopper" defect for any communication tool.
There is no reason to use a broken tool when working ones exist.
ive had lag and pieces of convos arrive out of order before
but they arrived.
i guess YMMV.
There are plenty of "It works fine for me folks", but I have encountered plenty of people that have had the same problems I have exxperienced, along with some that I haven't.
If it only works for some random people, then it doesn't work.
IRC doesn't have this problem. Neither does email, telnet, snail mail, telephone, nearly every instant messaging app, forums, BBS's, centralized messaging crap.
I guess you could say it competes well with fax machines and text messaging? Whoopty doo.
SimpleX works good but not for normies, it's still early, and needs to be flushed out more but I think it is improving more over time.
Signal is the best tool for normies until then.
Threema is a close second.
Check:
https://SecureMessagingApps.com
rate
š©=3
šØ=1
š„=0
Result
86 Threema = 86 Security Points = most secure Messenger
81 SimpleX Chat
80 Signal
77 Session
68 Wire
61 Wickr (Amazon)
56 Element / Matrix
37 Apple iMessage
32 WhatsApp
27 Telegram
26 Facebook Messenger
10 Microsoft Skype
