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What? Isn't like 90% of hash rate done by few pools which probably have each other in peer list on their nodes?

Or are you talking about sb randomly miming block on bitaxe?

I doubt they care about single digit % increase in chance of mining valid block.

I don't know if they have each other as peers. I do know that at least two pools have complained that ignoring the subsat tx filters caused them to lose money via an increased orphan rate. CKPool complained about this here: https://x.com/ckpooldev/status/1957235824451559746 and Mara Pool complained about it here: https://x.com/PortlandHODL/status/1958520763083825640

So if they *are* peering with one another it is apparently insufficient. The miners who *ignore* that peering (maybe Ocean?) and just broadcast blocks to the rest of the network benefitted by getting their blocks propagated faster, and winning more races. I want to see that play out again, but this time with inscriptions, and to that end I am excited to see the Knots count rise.

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Akashi Hyogo 3mo ago

Wow, I get it! But the difference has to be miniscule.

The thing is, additional revenue from sub sat txs is 0.06% which is super low. So that's why.

Also the orpahend block chance increases only because some miners are accepting them and some not.

This does not really apply to OP_RETURN debate. Or? Is there sb else beside Ocean?

What is a chance currently, that there are 2 new competing blocks - one by core and one by knots mimer AND next block by knots miner building on the competing knots block?

andrewtoth 3mo ago

That's not what your linked posts are complaining about. Both pools have an orphan rate of zero. In fact all pools mining sub sat txs have an orphan rate of zero https://x.com/mononautical/status/1968138304265900433

Super Testnet 3mo ago

Wete they complaining about greater *risk* of orphan blocks rather than an increased *rate* of orphan blocks?

andrewtoth 3mo ago 💬 2

The risk is purely hypothetical. However both pools made *more* money by mining sub sat txs. They certainly didn't *lose* money.

Super Testnet 3mo ago 💬 1

It seems strange to stop doing a profitable thing because of unfounded fear. Do you find their behavior strange?

Akashi Hyogo 3mo ago 💬 1

That's the thing: it is NOT profitable as according to ckpool it increased rewards by 0.06% which is nothing.

Akashi Hyogo 3mo ago

It means that if one in 1667 mined blocks of pool gets orphaned all the profit is gone.

Compare it with inscriptions which at times nearly overpayed the block reward.

Super Testnet 3mo ago

0.06% seems clearly different from "nothing"