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IMPORTANT: If you are here because you see Nostr as a censorship-resistant alternative and the beacon of free speech, YOU MUST READ THIS. Something bad is going on, and you should be aware of it. It affects every user on Nostr.

First: Please, only utilize the 'Report' feature in extreme cases. Instead, prioritize using the 'Mute/Block' option when necessary. This is a humble request to all the IOS & Android users 🙏

Because we have a very huge problem and it's not a bug. Let me elaborate:

Regardless of where you choose to report, your 'report' will censor that person not just for you but "all of your followers" who use Amethyst. It only takes five reports from 'following user' to censor the individual "for you" without your intent and knowledge. No matter which client the censored user is using, they will be censored for Amethyst users after reports.

Amethyst users don't even have an option to turn off this setting. This is really messed up. Any five users I am following can censor any person for me, and I can't do anything about it. This is ridiculous.

By the way, don't make any mistake here, it's not a bug, it's by design. I raised this issue with Vitor many times. I respect his work, but there has been no meaningful response regarding this. In fact, he wants you to learn coding and do it by yourself.

I don't intend to call out any person; I just want to spread awareness. Maybe you like this feature idk but you deserve to know what's exactly happening and make informed decisions.

Btw, You don't have to share this exact post, but please let people around you know what's happening. So they can participate in this debate.

This true #[2]​?

Why are reports set this way when it would be incredibly easy to abuse and have users censored?

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He is exaggerating for sure. Reported messages by the people you follow show up with a warning and "Show Anyway" button. They don't disappear.

So, users always know when this feature is active for given posts.

im more often seeing replies to my posts (it says 1 under the reaction logo) but cant see the reply, is that something different then what Iefan is saying here?

Exaggeration" In your opinion, I respect that, but I consider this to be hardcore censorship because it dramatically reduces a person's reach.

Btw do you know why this particular person is censored? It's because she were promoting about some other cryptocurrency.

People who reported her didn't even know they were censoring her for all their followers.

As one of them, I did no such thing. I signaled, that’s all. How those signals are used is the issue. This was originally intended for use by relays.

I mean, nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z this is a perfect example. He don't even know, and his reports are unintentionally censoring people on some other client.

I think it's a priority issue, you don't care about censorship but for us that's the only reason we are here. I think I get it, you are not wrong, you just have different priorities.

Btw, Making it optional, is it really too much to ask?

I consider this to be simple game theory. You now know who reported her. You can talk to them to delete the report. Or you can simply unfollow them. Either way, you are seeing this happening in your account. It's not hidden.

Reports have consequences as well. That's the only way we can make this system work.

How do we delete a report? I can't find anywhere in Amethyst that I can view and edit my own reports.

Who was reported here?

#[6]​ is highly muted. It’s affected her experience

That’s true, and this “feature” (that’s frequently abused to censor ppl) makes zero sense since spammers just make a million accounts anyway. It doesn’t stop spam at all.

A tempest in a teapot?

If the user still can see the spam and porn, where's the problem?