you are not wrong, however your gauging of other developer dedication and/or competency and/or distraction was inaccurate. you are a legend. not everyone is of vitor status.

Reply to this note

Please Login to reply.

Discussion

Or maybe it's not about competency or distraction but about product design.

Amethyst is just a copy-cat after all. It's easy to get product-market fit when nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgsprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5qy28wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hszrthwden5te0dehhxtnvdakqc267ea already did most of the work.

Truth.

That said, I understand what you're talking about though. For example, you added community support on essentially day one, and since then, you haven't added additional features. I remember you saying that full blown apps would offer better support. I understood that. However, it just has not happened. The dedicated community apps have died and never came to completion or offered better support.

Communities could be huge on Nostr. Reddit keeps fucking their users over. But we don't have a viable alternative yet. 😩

On the contrary, look at Pokey. This feature needed more love in Amethyst, and after some pushing 🤣 nostr:nprofile1qqsxg45ph8gx0vdrvtzta6xal7v86frx6jvstsnvhrlvtehmwwh4epqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuvrcvd5xzapwvdhk6tcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9nhwden5te0v4jx2m3wdehhxarj9ekxzmny9ua2vh28 built a better service. Pokey is great! It can happen! We have proof! But it seems it's rare and again it's based on dedication.

Yeah, Amber, Citrine, Pokey, ZapStore.. those are all working on Android, but they are also kinda orthogonal to specialty clients. These 4 apps are designs to work with all clients as opposed to take the reins in some specific feature.

Olas was the latest try. We will see how far it can go.

My man nostr:nprofile1qqs04xzt6ldm9qhs0ctw0t58kf4z57umjzmjg6jywu0seadwtqqc75spz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshszxnhwden5te0wpuhyctdd9jzuenfv96x5ctx9e3k7mf0dv4ph5 sees a new shiny and gets distracted easily 🤣🫂🫂🫂, but he now has minions, I think?, to help complete projects. Plus, I really feel that he understands the need for Olas.

I am approaching the problem from a very different perspective; instead of building a superapp I’m betting on making the protocol incredibly interoperable; the superapp route was always going to be possible but I think it ultimately undermines the whole point of nostr.

What I want is a flourishing ecosystem of apps that tightly integrate with each other without ever having to know of each other; there’s a reason I wrote NIP-31 (display unhandled events), NIP-89 (handle unknown events), NIP-90 (DVMs), NIP-60 (interoperable wallets)

I didn’t continue the work on Honeypot at the expense of Olas; I am finishing that work BECAUSE Olas, and Highlighter REQUIRE it.

Maybe I’m completely wrong but I think an extremely composable ecosystem is the only way that this can possibly ever work in the long run; much like outbox (or something like it) is required for nostr to work in the long run.

I fully agree. Having one application complement and help build the overall puzzle can be very powerful once all of the tools are available.

Yes.

💪

I agree with this take. I think we scare people talking about nostr because they get overwhelmed by all the info (not everyone is a freaky who likes rabbit holes).. but it’s easier to bring them by one “app” that fits their need. Once they get into the ecosystem we can introduce more and more clients/ use cases.

Fucking love it

Totally agree! Interoperability is such a important thing. You've seen my Nostr for Business deck and one huge inspiration to start working on it was the fact that all SAAS business apps like Slack, Notion,... are trying to be this huge superapp. The problem is that the experience is getting worse as they are adding more and more features.

Having small dedicated apps that are exceling in the small niche and are seamlessly interoperable with other apps is the way to go.

This is the future I want

10,000x micro apps