Most noobs use iPhone and I can’t think of another way to seamlessly get them the zapping experience. If noobs cared about privacy, they would be on android anyway 🤷‍♂️

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I can think of a few easy options that are better

WoS + Damus is way better, for example. The wallet info has nothing to do with your Damus npub 🤷🏾‍♂️

WoS doesn’t work in the US anymore and Apple wants a cut of the zaps

You can’t download from appstore but you can from testflight. And if you already had on your phone it still works.

My point is that there are many easy options available that dont link your npub to your wallet kyc info. Any wallet thats separate from the nostr client will do

I agree with you bro. They can and should do all that but again these are noobs we are talking about. How do you expect them to jump through all these hoops? They definitely can do it but they’re lazy and careless. They’ll just give up and go back to twatter lol most people are still using Gmail and share their location with their McDonald’s app lmao. Imagine trying to walk them through getting corn on robosats then sending to alby then using nwc to connect it lol most people don’t even want to write down 24 words.

-download damus from appstore or testflight

-download WoS from testflight

-use the script

-write a note

-get sats

-send sats

No need for robosats. They can send the sats they receive on here.

I agree with you buying nokyc sats is advanced. Even kyc sats to cold storage is semi advanced. But using nostr is not that hard. Just takes a little willpower

Brother we agree and we are on the same page but that list of steps is too much for a normie. I’ve told several of my normie friends to get on nostr. They love the idea but they won’t take that first step. They’ll probably do it when Taylor Swift and Lebron James get on lol imagine swifties going through all those steps idk if it’s going to happen 😂

You think installing two apps + visiting a website is not noob friendly ? 😂

They’re not that green…right? 😂😂

But I agree with you. The desire to try and stay on nostr is not there yet. It’s comfortable on tik tok, fb, etc…

I used to work in digital marketing. This was the book my director made me read. Look at the title 😂. If you want users to use your product then you have to give them a seamless experience. Asking them to jump through hoops on nostr to get sats and set up a lightning wallet before they have experienced any benefit in your product is a lot to ask. People are more retarded than we think lmao. The early adopters like us jumped through the hoops initially because we were already sold on the merits of nostr: freedom of speech, v4v, bitcoin. But most normies don’t understand or appreciate these things😂

A lot of the same issues apply to Bitcoin adoption as well. The UX is bad but NGU is powerful enough to overcome that. Is freedom of speech important enough for people to use nostr? So far no because a lot of Bitcoin influencoors are still on twatter haha. We are low time preference visionaries that see what nostr can become; that makes us truly unique 🫡

The title is hilarious.

As early adopters, we only had to jump through the hoop of using earlier versions of nostr clients, a year and a half ago. We didn’t have to jump through hoops to get sats though. The user experience is night and day compared to then.

But again, 2 apps is noob friendly.

Online banking for example:

-login to bank app

-get a 2fa code via email

-open email, copy code

-paste code on bank app

Objectively, using a banking app is a pretty seamless experience. Damus + WoS (or another wallet) is same difficulty level. (And lets say a user doesn’t care for zaps, his experience is even easier)

I dont think the issue is the ease of use. I think people are too attached to legacy social media. Seems like westerners dont care about censorship resistance (if i dont have anything to hide, why do i care type of mentality).

There is merit to what you’re saying. Maybe it’s a combination of all these factors.

Definitely. And wether they come now or way later, we still get to use it

Installing 2 apps + clicking yes on a website . That’s pretty noob friendly. I’m sure candy crush gave them the proper amount of skills for this 🤝😂😂

I think I saw zapplepay? N alby works.Sparrows on Mac n if you can self host, envoy.

There’s the script for damus to enable zaps, the option can be enabled on nostur, freerse has note zaps too. Plenty of options on ios

Thanks I'll remember that

Yes but these are a lot of hoops to expect a noob to jump through. What primal did was a UX decision, not a privacy one. Downloading one app, and paying for sats using your Apple ID is the most seamless experience. Privacy is always the tradeoff for convenience.

Yes, privacy should be the default. Never the trade off.