And after the festival they'll just "forget" to remove it and after a while it can't be removed anymore because of Denkmalschutz. 🤷‍♂️😳

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Yupp, they surely gonna start using it now for all events, and after a while will conclude "it works, we can let it stay". Meanwhile the town has already been peppered with video surveillance cameras before of these new ones.

Also in 2023 they literally planned to give police the legimitation to examine your phone whenever they want, which luckily didn't came through for the time being 😬.

Truly outrageous. Heard about the cameras before, but not about the phone examinations. At least in Switzerland the people have the last word and hopefully they then would make the smart decision, although I have my doubts.

Do the swiss people have the last word though 🤔?

Majority voted against:

- Fedpol

- Sommer-/wintertime

- Mass immigration

- Electronic identification (E-Id)

All of these votes where ignored. Well atleast regarding the E-Id we have a second chance to say No. But the technocrats just repeat the game until they win 🤷‍♀️.

Article about the phone examinations, if you are interested 😁:

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/umstrittenes-polizeigesetz-kein-handy-paragraf-im-thurgauer-polizeigesetz

You're right. And if the vote is not completely ignored then often it's watered down in the legislative process to a degree you don't recognize anymore what you've voted for. I know, it was more the hopeful, then the realist in me writing these words. I go cry now. 😢

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Thanks for the link to the article.

I always considered switzerland as one of the only real democracies in the world because you have direct referenda. Am I wrong? Did they manahe to subvert the system? Or are those not binding.

The system is based on subversion. Votings are binding, but everything is a question of definition and the meaning of language. If media matrix (mass media) tells the citizen that everything is fine, then everything is fine, even if the house is burning.

Quick example how they ignore the votings:

Majority votes against vanilla icecream.

Politicians interpret it as: Majority is against plain vanilla icecream, it wants vanilla icecream with chocolate bits.

In theory your country has the ability to initiate proposals right? Is this deal with the devil style where in theory they could propose it in such a way that its really hard to circumvent? My country used to have referenda and they didn't do this because the referenda were non binding, they chose to plainly ignore it and then illegally removed them altogether.