We're working on a clickable Bible structure. Feel free to fork it and come up with different versions.
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Just need to edit the PlantUML and use their server to create a new pic. Make sure to include your new code in your fork.
No, that won't be the only thing in that article. π
But we're starting with that because we're going to publish the Bible and you'll be able to navigate it from this image.
Might need to have a Wiki page for each book and then branch of into the different versions/translations (30040) from there.
nostr:npub1wamvxt2tr50ghu4fdw47ksadnt0p277nv0vfhplmv0n0z3243zyq26u3l2 we need the wiki page structure to match up to the image structure, so that people can click on the item and jump to the appropriate page, where they'll find a synopsis and links to the various translations (including your KJV).
E.g., we'd need an "new testament" page, a "gospels" page, a "Mark" page, and the various translations of Mark listed at the bottom of that one.
Then people can jump to every level from the "Bible" page.
Sorry, I was working on it without seeing these notifications. My current version has new testament and old testament indexes and books at numbered entries like kjv-book-01 so someone can just keep typing the next number to get the next book. Is this advantage incompatible with your structure / not worth it?
I've only created the index pages so far so it's not impossible for me to change, just not sure
Continued with book of Genesis so far, don't see why it wouldn't be compatible with whatever you're trying to do π€
I won't be linking to any original sources in wiki pages, as I don't want to encourage people to edit or troll the content of sources. A source is simply a source, and should be shelf-stable. I don't need 15 variations of the same verse from the same version. They should all be the same, and then there's no point in wikifying them.
I'm going to put original texts into articles and create books out of the articles, and then link to the books or the articles.
But you can do it however you like. π€·ββοΈ
An uncensored, decentralized wiki will eventually mirror all the text content in circulation.
As for me, having my fingerprint on it might help Christians see I don't hate them if I ever get infamous for getting some number of people to switch to a UNIX epoch calendar or something
I agree that it will, especially as someone could just generate pages automatically, out of everything printed in existence, but that doesn't mean I have to use them.
The Internet is full of things I don't look at.
Also consider the benefit of being able to just add double square brackets to terms to link to the wiki pages for them for a wiki version of the bible
The wiki link would have to follow the Biblical standard notation, for that to help.
People who really care about Biblical/Quran/etc. content are fastidious about versioning and trusted sources.
I mean like, for Moses for example you could just add square brackets to his name and have it link to an article about him. And for old timey terms people need explained.
When there are entries with page names in biblical standard notation, that will of course be useful on another level
I plan to leave my kjv thing unfinished for a while btw because there are a lot of Christians out there and maybe it being half finished on the wiki will inspire someone to start using the wiki for the first time to finish it. Onboarding with the power of god
I don't see how compatibility with the image thing is supposed to be represented right now
Let me know what you're saying to change about the page structure π€ unless the way I've got it set up now is ok
I'll set one rabbit-trail up for the Book of Jude, so that you can see the pattern.
Just saw you making a bunch of pages and wanted to clarify where I'm going with this structure, so that our pages end up listed under the same titles and people can predict where the links for the actual source material will be.
Not that you have to do it the way I am doing it, free protocol, but I wanted to explain why I won't be merging your fork. I don't want to wiki the Bible itself, as source material should be content-stable, and I therefore will place it in articles, that I can link to or embed in wiki pages.
Being able to go to historical original documents would greatly increase knowing where ideas come from and how they are changed from contexts.
Project Xanadu - Ted Nelson
What is this for?
Anyone who wants to use it.
Just meant like what are you working on?
We are going to publish the Bible.
So that Nostriches can use notes for their Bible quotes.
Plenty of fiction online for them to quote already
Cry harder.
Not coming up for me Laeserin...saying "undefined" in the tab, and "Event not found" on the webpage...
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
Try refreshing. Just broadcasted it.
Or try this link: https://wikifreedia.xyz/bible/npub1m4ny6hjqzepn4rxknuq94c2gpqzr29ufkkw7ttcxyak7v43n6vvsajc2jl
Wikifredia works...Highlighter now just giving me an "undefined" tab (and a blank page - no error message at all)
Highlighter can't display wiki pages, but should maybe offer a redirect to Wikifreedia.
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Hiccups notwithstanding, this is a GREAT idea...
I can (unfortunately) envision a day when the Bible would be banned...but it can live forever on Nostr...
But how do I highlight wikis then? π
I can't figure out how to highlight anything, so far. π Legit can't figure out how to do it. Why can I not highlight something on a web page, for instance?
1. Copy Link
2. Paste in highlighter's search bar
3. Make highlights
4. Cross your fingers this the 1 out 5 times it publishes those highlights
Can't wait for some specialized tool for web. (highlighter plug in doesn't work for me)
Highlighting is such a game-changer. So frustrating that we can't already easily highlight everything, everywhere. π
ππ«Άlol just an opinion
Nice
Each verse gets a note?
I was playing around once and put two short Bible books on Nostr, where each verse gets a note:
Ah, that's good. I wrote in my last article that the Bible would be the first book published on Nostr and I see that it's already true. π«Ά
You can break it down however you like.
I'm going to start off publishing the chapters in their entirety as 30041s and link them together with 30040s as books, with the verses only numbered in the markdown, just to get the entire thing published quickly. But the 30041s are replaceable events, like long-form articles are, so I can go back and break them down with more 30041s containing individual verses, later. Or create a script that does that, automatically.
Publishing verses would also mean that someone could take my "Catholic version" and reorder/expand/exclude verses to get a "Protestant" or "Orthodox" version. Someone could also come up with a new Bible version by combining verses from different publications, or including the same verse in three versions and adding commentary. That sort of thing.
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Interested to see where this goes! Happy to see the Deuterocanon π
Mine is the Catholic ordering, of course.
The great thing about using PlantUML to generate the picture is that anyone can fork my papally-approved version and create an Orthodox version, Anglican version, Lutheran version, etc. And we can then create a Catholic/Orthodox/etc. version of the "Gospels" wiki article, point directly to that (from the image), and link to our preferred translations from there. Or we can link to the entire wiki page list for the Gospels, so that people can browse them.
There is no expectation of consensus, on Nostr wiki, so we don't have to pretend to agree on this most contentious issue. We can just coexist.