Have we basically collectively agreed not fix/align on nostr DMs for now? Somehow they seem to be getting worse

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Just need a crisis to facilitate change.

Leak a bunch of people’s DMs.

The messages themselves are not leaking. I don't get what's the drama. We have the standards. People just don't want to agree on anything.

It’s very painful

It’s not that bad for me

Must be a haven user

Guilty

Didn’t we all agree years ago that DMs were a known failure? 😞

At least it was a bunch of repeater creeps when I first joined here. Is that my own bias? See the issue. Who knows? 🤣🤣🤣

couldn’t it be as simple as generating disposable keys per DM convo, and rotating them periodically? The temp keys could be stored in an encrypted note so they transfer from client to client

Doesn’t solve forward secrecy if a key leaks but it solves metadata privacy

Until then, Simplex

what's the issue everyone is experiencing with DMs??