I stacked my sats this morning and yesterday helped a friend to buy non-kyc btc from an atm. This wasn’t easy! Took 3 atms to find one that didn’t require kyc ($900 limit), had to get a different wallet (Muun) because it wouldn’t work with WoS, and the premium was high ($31,300). She was thrilled to do it though and I helped her transfer it into cold storage. PV!!

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I haven't used those Bitcoin ATMs yet. Need to do that just for the experience. I assumed it was just a matter of picking one and feeding money into it.

You do need to input a phone number into all of them so depending on the level of privacy you want, you may want a burner phone. It sends you back a code you input into the atm and then you feed the money in. If you don’t care about kyc, I see zero advantage to using them.

Now that you know which brands don't require anything other than a phone number (use textverified.com for this), you can use CoinATM Radar and search by that brand in your area.

Great tip, thx! In our area, the only one that didn’t require kyc was Coinflip.

900 per phone number?

Yes

Does Google voice still allow for unlimited numbers? Would be cool to have a small army of numbers to go around and drain all the arms 😆

Arms = atms

When did she buy cold storage wallet?

Last year soon after she first purchased bitcoin. She is 76 and gets intimidated by each step, but is determined 🧡

Do you remember the brand atm? I would like to do this myself near me.

Coinflip.

Bitcoin Depot and Coinsource both required kyc for any amount.

Thanks.

Quick flex, I worked with Coinflip’s founder at a previous job. Young and talented guy!

Why does coin flip require KYC now? Can you ask him? I genuinely want to know because they advertise just a phone number. You must scan ID for any amount.

“Bitcoin ATM providers in the US must comply with both federal and state regulations. On the federal level, the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) requires financial institutions to assist US government agencies in detecting and preventing money laundering”

-from Bing

It’s been nearly 10 yrs since I’ve said anything to him so I’m not gonna ask. Illinois and possibly Fed regulations likely require him to use KYC

But they advertise the opposite. Frustrating.

What specific advertising are you referring to?

Below $900 you have to scan state issued ID.

Just use RoboSats, it’s very straightforward

For a non-tech savvy 76 year old? I still need to transfer her sats to cold storage for her every time even though we have done it together 5-6 times.

It’s quite probable they just enjoy the extra company.

She for sure does, but I visit her regularly even when she doesn’t need btc help.

Why not just have her pay you, and then you buy the sats on RoboSats? They have an option to send sats to an on-chain address during payout. Just put her address in there and you’ll be good to go.

I have never used Robosats. She also likes the idea of being able to do it herself. It’s a good idea though that I’ll look into and suggest to her.

Even if she doesn’t use it, you certainly could. It’s the best way to purchase non-KYC sats for smaller amounts (<$1k)

I’ll try it. Thank you!!

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BTC atm premiums can be 👀

Try Bisq, it's really nice and easy. All you need is some non-kyc BTC for the initial safety-deposit.

I really need to try Bisq myself. Thx!

That's the only problem with getting paid with Bitcoin... You got nothing to buy the dip with. I'll still take it!

Next time try Bisq.network

I really need to do this and then try to teach her to do it.

i could swear there's a magical forcefield active that's stopping everyone from doing this

we should organise a collective spaces/workshop and pick a date to do this simultaneously

but then with Robosats (there's some added benefits to RS over Bisq, e.g. runs over Tor and let's you have a new "identity profile" for every new purchase)

let's pull eachother up and set a date 😆

(personally im blessed already with Peach bitcoin app here in 🇪🇺, but i still want to at least learn Robosats bc Peach is centralised and could be shutdown anyday)

Love this idea Matata!