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NIP-17 DMs work great for smol groups or 1on1 conversations. One question for the knowledgeable folks, is it possible to "upgrade" a group from NIP-17 to MLS once it reaches a certain size?

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Ingwie Phoenix (aka. birb) 9mo ago

Matrix does this by inserting a "room upgrade event" that notifies peers of

- the new address

- the new version

Nothing stops you from doing that in Nostr, there just is no spec for that (yet?)

verbiricha 9mo ago

True, and a spec for that is something we need to be able to migrate groups!

J.G.Montoya.Hodl 9mo ago

What would be the advantage of that over simply always using MLS?

JeffG 9mo ago

Nothing

J.G.Montoya.Hodl 9mo ago

That's what I thought 😁

Garbage nsec 9mo ago

You get to feel upgraded!

verbiricha 9mo ago

MLS is certainly better but I was wondering if existing groups can be upgraded. Looks like there are ways to do it.

verbiricha 9mo ago

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Keychat 9mo ago

When NIP17 group members upgrade to a client that supports MLS, the new client will generate and upload a key package to the relay. The group owner can then fetch all members’ key packages from the relay to create a new MLS group chat. This should allow for a smooth upgrade.

verbiricha 9mo ago

awesome, thank you!

JeffG 9mo ago

It's not possible from NIP-17 to MLS - you should just start a new group with those same people. NIP-17 doesn't support groups at all though...

verbiricha 9mo ago

it does support multiple pubkey rooms https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/17.md#chat-rooms