I was looking into the details of renouncing US citizenship yesterday. They can REFUSE to allow you to give up your citizenship.

So not only do you need to buy your freedom, it's not a given that you'll even be allowed to do so.

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My friend is doing it next week. She had to hire a firm that specializes in helping Americans renounce their citizenship. The consulate gave her a lecture about how she shouldn’t do it and are making her travel to participate in a renouncement ceremony!

Interesting! What's her plan for after?

She’s had a New Zealand passport for 25 years and just got tired of dealing with American taxes.

Ah makes sense.

I was hoping she didnt have any passport at all.

I think it's time we begin more hardcore experimentation with stateless sovereign individuals.

curious about this re: friends who never went to the doctor re: pregnancy & so their child doesnt have any paperwork proving their existence anywhere. as in: no social security #, no birth certificate, nothing

“Would you like to know more?”

Clicks yes.

And they may still want some back taxes later on if your bitcoin wealth is significant

Being a US citizen is supposed to make you free according to the Constitution