ooh, i just did my first submarine swap via https://boltz.exchange - it was a lot easier and faster than i expected... well, maybe lucky that a block confirmation came 5 minutes after i initiated it but still

made an invoice in my alby hub, then made the swap, it gives me the address, i withdraw some on-chain from the hub to pay it, and then wait for confirmation and wham, bam, thankyou ma'am

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I always wonder how easy things are when people here say they're easy. I need to give this a try.

Might just be easier for me to send to muun and then to on-chain, as muun allows for this

I highly suggest Aqua wallet which has Boltz integration ⚡️🤙🏼

I've never seen this one before, maybe cos it doesn't seem to have an lnurl address thing(not that I can see anyway).

If it did them surely this would be a perfect wallet?

Maybe coinos can send to on-chain? Not checked actually 🤔

Breez is building their own version, think a simpler Aqua but with a Lightning address.

Hopefully available soon… 👀

This would be very useful. Seems sort of mad to have a wallet because it has an lnurl, needing another because it has on-chain capabilities but no lnurl.

There doesn't seem to be a wallet with both lol.

No, because combining all of these things into one simple package is really hard to do!

Even these new wallets built on Breez SDK still have some limitations. There’s no channel management for the user, which is a huge advantage, but because they use Boltz and settle on the Liquid sidechain, the minimum amount that can be transacted is 1000 sats, and there is a settlement delay of about a minute.

Yeah I was sure there must be a reason I was just wondering why lnurl's seems I be absent 🤔

LNURL/LUD16 addresses only work when there’s an active web server providing the functionality. Its job is to communicate between the sending and receiving node to create and hand off the invoice. It all happens behind the scenes so the receiver doesn’t have to do anything to get paid except share their address.

I highly suggest Aqua wallet which has Boltz integration ⚡️🤙🏼

except i'm using alby hub which i use with alby go... and the times i need to go from onchain to lightning and vice versa are pretty rare, really, like once a month i might want to put a few onchains into my channels and that's that

i zap my sats to my bitcoin neobank whenever i need to, every few days maybe i bump some new amount, my bank is great though, it only exchanges my sats for fiat when i spend it, or if i need to pay my rent, which i do via SEPA so that also requires an exchange first because they haven't integrated on-demand exchange to cover that

btw your profile image gif is horrible, epilepsy inducing nastiness

What is this magical neo bank??

not magical, expensive

#xapo https://www.xapobank.com

idk what their trial conditions are but you pay $1000/year for an account now i paid mine, so i have sunk cost fallacy

no, the service is great, name one other neobank that has lightning in and out... plus the customer service is helpful

and they let me KYC just on the strength of my phone's GPS coordinates

which was handy because i had no paper to prove anything more than that anyway

i do now, but i'm not changing it and they don't ask, so there's that also

seriously, i have tried wirex twice, and binance once, and both rugged me

xapo have not rugged me in like, 18 months i think it is now

been rock solid like the gibraltar their office is registered in