My wife breaks out in keto rash a few days into strict carnivore diet. Any idea how to treat / manage without breaking ketosis?
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Yes, reintroduce carbs
Is she only eating beef or are there other foods that may be causing a small allergic reaction? Eggs, fish, dairy, etc. If not, she may need to supplement or reintroduce some carbs.
Some people are gonna need some carbs. Why does that surprise people?
The only thing I can think of is that her gut biome is so out of whack that it can't handle the fat and protein load so suddenly.
Is she jumping in or reducing her carbs gradually?
Does she or her family have a history of gall bladder issues?
No issues with her gall bladder. She really wants to eat pure carnivore but each time it has happened to her, she has had to reintroduce carbs. It just keeps us both from going full carnivore for a long period of time, mostly because of convenience. Looking for advice of how we can simplify the diet to increase the duration.
OK.
Again, it's she just jumping in to it? I gradually tapered off.
How does she feel before she gets ill?
Glucose is the body's preferred source of energy. Fat is the backup energy source. Why purposefully deprived the body from its primary source of energy?
Your body produces its own glucose through gluconeogenesis; adding more by eating carbohydrates DISRUPTS this natural process.
Research ketosis 👇
The "natural process" is for the body to produce glucose from the carbohydrates in the food consumed.
The glucose that is not used immediately is stored into the liver and muscles as glycogen.
When the body needs the stored glycogen, it is converted back into glucose.
Glugoneogenesis happens when the body is depleted from glucose. The liver and kidney produce glucose to supply the organs that can't operate with out it (brain, eye, kidney,...). The liver also produces ketones as a backup energy source for the muscles and other organs.
Glugoneogenesis happens when glucose in the body is too low. If glucose availability from diet and storage is sufficient, glugoneogenesis doesn't happened. It not cumulative.
Wrong: no, nobody needs carbs. They are poisonous to all humans
Correct: removing them too quickly can lead to intense oxalate-dumping, as the body detoxes. This doesn't mean they NEED carbs though, just means they need to be removed more gradually for some than others
I will politely disagree about the "nobody needs carbs" thing.
Oxalate dumping would explain the issues. I had totally forgot about that. Good call!
Textbook oxalate-dumping. Here are some resources to learn more - basically her body is flushing out all those plant toxins it's accumulated. A great sign! If the symptoms get too bad, some people temporarily reintroduce small amounts of oxalate-holding plants (berries, dark chocolate, spinach, etc.) during that dumping period to smooth out the detox process.
Hit me up if you want bro, just need a few information about your wife, before I can say anything… could be a healing reaction. Went from keto to carnivore ? Have you been testing ketones ? Why is the reasons she went carnivore? And just so many more questions 🤣 happy to answer as much as I can with the right Data….