What if I told you the story of Jesus is not unique to Christianity? Our dates are not built around him, he was infused into pre-existing dates to give that religion relevance in the face of paganism. This is where reading history and other religions gives you a broader perspective and context. Saying that you believe Jesus was a real person who lived but Christians don’t agree with your views, is like saying your belief in the easter bunny really pisses off the establishment. You are really close by wanting to take the magic out, now realize, there is 0 historical record outside of the fake texts of the bible that make mention of Jesus. 0.
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Well, govts & authorities tend to twist & coopt significant popular figures more often than they create them. And I mentioned the parts being added in from the religions that christianity consumed.
But if it's all completely fake & there was no Jesus at all, then who manufactured the story & to what end?
That is a great search for you. Wonderful question. Find that out for yourself as I or any other folks have. The history is there. Start with the translation, than missing books of the bible and the authorities who hold those, then get into Martin Luther, then the crusades, paganism, etc. It’s all there.
Here’s an abstract thought, if you’re capable of believing that god has always existed and didn’t need a creator, then you are capable of accepting no creator was needed.
I don't think a creator was needed, I think the structure of reality is what created everything. It doesn't even seem like we are in the same conversation. You don't seem to understand a single thing that I say. Like the fact that I use the word God (event though I have defined it multiple times) flips some irrational angry switch in your brain.
It's also weird to me that you think the random details of the bible are trustworthy, I think the details are the least trustworthy things. You think someone lived for like 300 years?