Does anyone know of a reputable and good bitcoin backed mortgage company? One that does mortgage rates but judges “credit worthiness” via proof of bitcoin?

I remember some options discussed in the past but didn’t seem to save them.

Ledn or Unchained is great for generic loans but interest rates are much heavier than what you’d want with a mortgage.

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I don’t think they exist…yet. But with the new rule allowing bitcoin collateral, I imagine they’ll be to market ASAP

I swear I thought I heard of one out there

Wasn't that on CNBC? Some guy talking about it?

Maybe, don’t know of that segment specifically but I wouldn’t be surprised

There was a guy who did an interview with brunelle but they were also over collateralized with the bitcoin. Reg mortgage doesn't require collateral.

I realize that, but it requires a credit check. I thought I had heard of one that let you segment out a balance of bitcoin and sign for its ownership, and then if you ever moved it you would have to pay a higher interest rate, but otherwise you simply needed enough allocated for backing the house. And it’s a 1:1 collateral rather than a typical 2:1 for bitcoin loans

interesting, never heard of that model. You may be able to find a private seller interested in that arrangement and just route around the system p2p.

if we sell, there is a good chance this is how we will do it.

I don't think the rule allows for Bitcoin collateral. It allows banks to assess the holdings to determine credit worthiness. (Same as showing them your stock portfolio) It's voluntary but can help you get a better rate.

The house will still be the collateral and they'll still want to see income to know you can make payments.

I'm excited for The People's Reserve to launch.

Too bad they designed it with a shitcoin

Did they? Hadn't seen that part yet. I'll have to look into them some more.

I was interested too but learning this was an instant deal killer for me

Gross. Who needs a loyalty token when you have sats?

Same, I don’t get it at all, seemed so promising

Battery financed

I don't know if that's what you're asking, debifi and firefish

Bitcoin as collateral will not roll in traditional mortgages I would expect ever. Traditional mortgages use the house as collateral & nothing more. When they do allow Bitcoin in the equation (it hasn’t rolled yet) there’s 2 possible scenarios that it could be considered as. Income - which would be that you could consider a percentage of your holdings as monthly income & assets which you could use as reserves only. In both scenarios it will need to be in a wallet that has monthly statements & account numbers. It’s not going to be as exciting as it was made out to be.

I know you didnt ask but - Interest rates for anything Bitcoin backed are absurd and volatility means you can end up having to store a crazy amount as collateral. Would not recommend to anyone

Not the same but I know strike is supposed to be moving into loans as well and Jack is expecting to be able to offer rates below 10%. Still 2x collateralized I think.

The People's Reserve has been talking a big game about this but I wouldn't trust them yet. https://www.peoplesreserve.com/

If you are wealthy enough to be a private banking client with a big bank they would make it work for you.

Talking a big game, and not put anything in the market accept for their own token

Classic shitcoining

Yeah starting with an ETH token seems to be a pretty big indicator to not take them seriously

I think peoples reserve was going to do some bitcoin backed mortgages. adjustable rates with bitcoin as collateral. Not sure if it’s offered currently though

Starting with an ETH token is a deal breaker for me https://tokensale.peoplesreserve.com/

Ouch. I had high hopes.

Sadly many such cases. The temptation to do a shitcoin and book a quick easy profit is strong. 😢

Why doxx yourself?

Great question, and I’ve not seen anyone that has nailed this

Keen to use when they do

Yup, that's a stand-out model, but I don't see it for retail yet... Do you?

Not yet, but as more banks adopt Bitcoin natively, it's a question of when, not if.

Totally agree with that!

I've seen one that uses Bitcoin to borrow your 20% deposit for the mortgage.

You still needed to obtain the mortgage which means proving income which is where it falls short.

Is Ledn that canadian company? I remember Stephan Livera interviewed the founder or co founder a few years ago. was an interesting conversation for that time. I havn't checked in on it lately though.

I feel like maybe I remember Ledn promised this, but tbh:

I just bought a house (at a good price w/ a fast close) by taking multiple 3 to 6-month loans on Debifi. I’m now 5 weeks later still waiting for the dinosaur banking system to close the mortgage so I can repay those loans.

I used AI to help the search for a BTC-backed mortgage, but never found anything remotely legit.

The Debifi experience was commendable, only a little learning curve on the first loan. But rates are very high, and nothing beyond 1-year…so not an actual answer to your question.

IMO, Mortgage loans based on Bitcoin are going to be a Massive win for the first legitimate company through the gate.

Banking mortgages are fucking retard-level bullshit.

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