Don't assume everyone who's been involved for a long time is "up a gazillion %". It might be a lot rarer than you think.

The *last* thing i want to give any newcomer into this, if we mean as an investment, is psychological comfort.

They themselves might, over time, find that comfort and I'm all for helping people with education.

But selling it to people, marketing it, convincing them with concepts like guaranteed cycles, or guaranteed anything ... I'm dead set against that.