I literally had a friend try to convince me that this all demonstrated that Macron is an enlightened statesmen, merely by virtue of taking the opposite line of the US.

I am no defender of US foreign policy. But if someone can be confused into simping for Xi Jinping merely by it being an opportunity to disagree with the US, then you might be a complete idiot.

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I am curious to see how the EU deals with Macron's statements in China. There is criticism, but I find it restrained. And from Germany in particular, it comes mainly from the political second row. But I'm happy to be corrected on this.

Eastern European countries seem to be pretty outraged. There has also been some pretty fierce criticism within the French press, such as in La Monde, at how morally bereft his statements were.

The French press is outraged. The press in other European countries is also appalled. But I find the political reaction weak 🤷🏽‍♀️

That’s because Von Dey Leyden was also in China though it was unclear how her meeting went.

I couldn’t have said it better myself. Xi is no Santa Claus and people like Macron are going to soon be copying the totalitarian methods of the CCP. Once you start admiring the CCP, you become them eg Justin Trudeau

That's not what's going to happen. What's going to happen is they're going to have a rude awakening.

Seems like they are warming up to the idea

I'm not criticizing strategic autonomy. I think it would be an amazing thing for the EU to be able to defend itself. I'm criticizing the kissing Xi's ass thing.

I understand that and I am with you 100% on that, all I am pointing out is that they started to sing this song more loudly after both Von Leyden And Macron had a sit down with Xi. I may not know the exact details of those discussions but the timing is quite suspicious at the very least.

Mind boggling to go with Xi... the level of stupidity has reached levels i never thought possible.