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Liquid Network

Liquid Network is extremely undervalued. People are still thinking about coinjoins and arguing among themselves when they have a much cheaper method.

Remember that transactions on Liquid are confidential, only the signer of the transaction and the receiver can know what amount has been sent, for them Borromean ring signatures are used.

Manual for Dummies:

- You make a peg-in of the amount you want to anonymize, if you have an elements node (Liquid node) or use the decentralized Exchange Tdex the cost will be only the cost of the chain transaction, if you do not have any of the above available you can make a peg-in with sideswap for 0.1%.

- Once you have converted your btc inside Liquid to L-BTC you make a peg-out with sideswap, do not make a peg-out of the same total amount that you have made the peg-in and try to space it in time if there are several. The cost of the sideswap peg-out is 0.1% plus the fee of the chain transaction.

One way to avoid also performing the peg-in is to buy L-BTC directly for example on Bisq.

In the best case, the whole operation will cost you the fee of two blockchain transactions and 0.1% in the worst case 0.2% plus the two blockchain transactions, I recommend you to set up your own node elements or use the decentralized Exchange tdex to perform the peg-in without permission and avoid that 0.1%.

When you make a peg-out you receive btc that are retained in the federation, the allocation is random, so seen from the outside, Liquid is like a classic mixer but without centralized custody as it is federated, your coins enter the federation and when you leave with a peg-out you are given other coins that are not your initial coins thus breaking the heuristics of your initial coins.

All this is done without any KYC, you can increase the anonymity using tor or a vpn in sideswap so that there is no trace of your ip.

Liquid sucks, use Monero

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How do you get monero anyway? Without linking it to yourself.

Localmonero.co if you have cash, if you have crypto, one of the non-kyc exchanges on kycnot.me

A shitcoin that loses value against bitcoin? no haha.

A shitcoin that loses value against bitcoin? no haha.

You're telling people to use Liquid, a permissioned network, and calling Monero a shitcoin...Short term volatility is the same on XMR and BTC so that doesn't matter if you don't hodl XMR long term.

Liquid: 100% chance Alice sent $[?] to Bob

Monero: ~6% chance Alice sent $[?] to [?]

Monero also hides IP address by default. Liquid doesn't. Hide the names and which would you choose given all the facts?

Also, I forgot, no one uses Liquid so pathetic anon set too

How do you verify the total supply of monero? How do you secure the network?

Run a node like Bitcoin. Mine like Bitcoin.

If you are scared of the way Monero does both of these things. Don't save with it. Simple as pie.