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I don't think that bounty should apply and I don't think we should try to replace GitHub, just step by step build the tools for doing code collaboration without a big central server.

Leo Wandersleb 1y ago

If not for this then what do you think Jack had in mind?

Nobody needs yet another GitHub clone. There's already GitLab and Gitea and certainly others. We need a way to bridge these. An interface to make MRs from a self hosted Gitea instance to GitHub and a way to discover repositories no matter where they are hosted. At least I suspect that is what would make Jack happy.

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His original bounty was totally not specific: nostr:nevent1qqsqkfjzlcx0fg7ymte3t0ka2wpzve68hykep8rq7aflj9svhg7jragpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsygyzxs0cs2mw40xjhfl3a7g24ktpeur54u2mnm6y5z0e6250h7lx5gpsgqqqqqqs684apg

His later post with link to bountsr did not make that more clear. https://web.archive.org/web/20230126232251/https://bountsr.org/code/2023/01/19/nostr-based-github.html

For what it's worth, I had suggested to fix discoverability and cross instance PRs as a reaction to his original post (although I can't find that event now) and he "liked" that.

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Leo Wandersleb 1y ago

Ok, what the hack. Ok, Jack why do you boosts Fiatjaf's comment? Could we please know what the bounty was about or at least how community consent could be measured? I'm super excited about the interoperability layer stuff (and websites that build on top of that to look like GitHub) and if not that, what is it you see so important to throw tons of money at it?

fiatjaf 1y ago

I think he has said in the past that his bounty was ill-placed. Me and Pablo and others had written that the bounty as it was put would encourage the wrong kind of behavior and that the approach should instead be more if a modular system.

Indeed we did see some bad behavior, like a project that cloned GitHub's UI and called it "nostrgit" without any plan or care about having it be a reasonable open protocol.

Leo Wandersleb 1y ago

Although Jack had doubts about his bounty, it stands as in "it was not retracted or superseded" and as long as it's not broken down into smaller bounties it will inspire devs to run off in the one direction or the other. In which direction should they run off in the meantime? I love nip34 and https://gitworkshop.dev if I understand it right. Both clearly are going in the right direction unless I totally get it wrong.

Colby Serpa 1y ago

We’ve been working on the bounty since the beginning and are almost ready to release the working product. nostr:npub1u9e887ad8pl49cxgzqkuljxcxy89dtac7jkyuajnukxg6hu2hufqdjdsp7 nostr:npub1h0rnetjp2qka44ayzyjcdh90gs3gzrtq4f94033heng6w34s0pzq2yfv0g

I encourage you all to be a bit more patient — lower your time preference and stick to the goal of building a social media app like GitHub. Otherwise, how we will recruit that masses? CLI tools and email? Give me a break.

Don’t squash this egg right before it hatches… 🪺 nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m

Colby Serpa 1y ago

Otherwise, how will we recruit the masses?*

Leo Wandersleb 1y ago

My OP was to gauge activity. People with heads down working on a thing can burn a lot of resources and stirring some discussion around this might help to get some either to fomo reveal some progress or to drop out as they see what they are working on is not the right thing.

Re: "CLI tools and email? Give me a break."

Many great tools were built on well designed APIs or actually using CLIs on the backend. NIP34 will be the API. ngit a CLI using such an API. Devs need nothing more than a CLI to test workflows. Designers can then wrap some fancy UI around that. That's normally how Open Source development goes. Some devs know how to solve a problem of theirs. Only later some less technical people pay designers to make it work without a keyboard.

Colby Serpa 1y ago

Is Nostr not about decentralized social media? GitHub is social media for coders. Combining them is a great idea. CLI isn’t enough.

But of course, GitNestr has a CLI tool as well. The full picture is the real prize though.

Leo Wandersleb 1y ago

I bet whatever works best will take the world by storm. Developers love trying out new things.

Whatever wins, I hope it fixes discoverability so when I next shop around for developers I will not have to check their portfolios exclusively on GitHub. I want some "ngit search npub..." to find all the projects that npub contributed to regardless on which servers and including the patches that were not hosted on forks of projects.

Colby Serpa 1y ago

🫡 Salute to that sir! Let the best product win. I just hope the bounty isn’t canceled.

Let people “feel” the products. If they all are terrible, then cancel it. But I have a feeling we’ll end up with something very useful & as intuitive as GitHub. 🔐

Colby Serpa 1y ago

That functionality will certainly be possible on #GitNestr. We setup permissions to handle this exact problem.

<old>cypherhoodlum 1y ago

It's true we have burnt a lot of resources while keeping our heads down. Still, our project will be completely FOSS after the alpha release and can therefore be altered according to the needs of the community. I hope we'll get lots of FOSS contributions. The bounty only gets us to the starting line so to speak.

I really think the discussion will be more fruitful once we have a working MVP.