Gym thought:

What if the US gov just claims the NSA invented Bitcoin and that they control Satoshi’s coins.

Complete “trust me bro” situation, similar to the gold in Fort Knox.

Then if the coins ever move they can say they were stolen from them and go after them with force.

Not at all saying I would want this but seems like a play they could actually make.

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I think this 100%

the gov never claimed they invented bitcoin, the research was merely about a cryptographic currency as a concept

Right, I’m saying they could change their tune and now claim it was them all along even if it wasn’t

well when it comes to these ghouls, I will never rule anything out. But, to what end would they do this in your opinion? Not something I've ever thought about so can't really see an end game at the moment of making the claim

1) confidence game. Project more strength. This is Trump’s shtick

2) to establish a basis for forcefully going after the coins if they ever move

yea, that seems 'reasonable' enough for a bunch of control freak psychopaths Can't say I agree that it will happen, but like I said, I rule nothing out. If he can convince Christians that he was sent by God to save America, I suppose he can convince some of anything

Yea I also don’t think it will happen. Just a thought that came to me as I was repetitively moving heavy objects

Coincidentally, I often have random thoughts at bizarre times😂 🫡

They would at base level have to own the keys if they invented bitcoin. So for me it’s a nah. Would be the NSA behaving like Craig Wright with even less association to the tech.

No I’m saying they wouldn’t have the key, just claim that they do then punish anyone else who moves the coins saying that they stole them

Yeah no that's not happening.

Dude's haven't won a war yet but you're saying they'll punished anyone who moves the coins?

I'll believe that when they win a war other than their own civil war.

At least let them defeat the Houti"s first? Maybe?

Talk is cheap.

They don't even need to do this, they only need to control the supply of goods and services, which they already do.

No they don't, the houthi seem too be defining that metric in the bab Al mandab

Oh, and China.

In the US it's the federales and states that control access to the overwhelming majors Ty of goods and services in the market, and so they decide what currency can be used to access them and how much tax will be paid etc.

Other nations control access to markets within their borders too.

While this situation remains unchanged, bitcoin can only act as financial instrument within the fiat economy rather than replacing it.

Craig Wright tried that too

Yea Craig Wright has 0 air craft carriers

No one's going to believe them if they don't move it. Simple.

They haven’t audited Fort Knox in forever

If they move, it's proof someone has a quantum computer that can break asymmetric encryption

Maybe

Could Satoshi send a small amount from each utxo and inscriped the transaction “Property of Satoshi, government has no keys and cannot move these coins”

Why would anyone believe them if they do not proof they have the key?

I mean: I could make the same claim, right?

You can also claim you own 8000 tons of gold and not let anyone see it. Just like the feds do with Fort Knox

Hm… good idea. Maybe some DeFi protocol or regular bank will let me borrow against it?

Yea I was thinking Coinbase would do that and give them an excuse to fractional reserve

Normies could believe them but serious bitcoiners know how to be sure.

Normies outnumber serious bitcoiners 100000000 to 1

Yes, and they will pay the cost of it.

I believe at least 2% of people won't be fooled.