If you use ZeusPay and Zeus's "node in phone", it utilizes hodl invoices so you can receive payments even when your app is closed/offline. Apparently this has caused issues with channel force closures and Mutiny blocks payments to ZeusPay addresses by default, but allows users to choose to send them anyway if they're willing to accept the risk of their channel force closing.

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so are hodl invoices bad?

Probably depends who you asks 😂 They're just another way to use the lightning network. But force closes are costly, and generally unwanted. So if they're contributing to force closes here, then for those users it's a bad thing I guess.

https://voltage.cloud/blog/lightning-network-faq/understanding-hold-invoices-on-the-lightning-network/

My thing is how is Zeus any different then what’s being purposed to be done with ecash?

Receive ecash off line & redeem when you come back on line?

It’s a fucking joke right?

Ecash is a separate token and is custodial. ZeusPay is non-custodial and is bitcoin. Big difference.

I’m just talking in functionality of what’s trying to be achieved by to different projects.

with fedimint you can setup the ecash mint as a redundant server cluster

so it should be more stable and with high up time

you have a time limit then come back