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I suppose he’s never had to clean his own toilet?
Discussion
Voluntarily you mean?
Are there people who are forced to clean their own toilets?
From necessity
There is only voluntary or involuntary.
Necessity is involuntary i guess
It is not an objective measure.
We can refuse to do necessary things.
That's not the point. Aristotle said men do something they think is good or pleasant. It's good to clean your toilet, but it comes from necessity not pleasure.
Right?
"For I reckon among good things the removal of that which is evil or seems evil, or the exchange of a greater evil for a less, because these two things are in a way desirable; in like manner, I reckon among pleasant things the removal of that which is or appears painful, and the exchange of a greater pain for a less."
Cleaning the toilet improves sanitation, so it is a labor exchange of the bad for the less-bad.
Yes, we are in agreement.