And I am free to critisize him on that (if he is not natty, which probably is the case.)
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Yea you are. Did I imply otherwise?
No that is true. But in my point of view he should be honest. Doing the real proof of work. steroids and stuff lower the proof of work with a margin great enough to be considered viable to get better results for less work.
Many PED users say that they do have to work hard to sustain their PED blood levels and keeping balance between fu**ing up their body and getting better results.
I think that is not the strongest standing argument. But that does not mean that the person himself is immeadiatly bad on itself.
Why? Its one thing if he is on something and claims he isnt but its his life and is nobody's business but his. Are you willing to tell me all your private matters? I would hope not.
Well if someone would look shocked at my amazing physique and says "great body man!"
the honest thing for me to do is to say: "yeah those steroids work perfect bro!" if I was not natty.
I told people that but that's a choice each person needs to make. And you are condemning a person over an assumption. Seriously, why does this matter to you? He's a grown man who is harming nobody
There is no proof but there will be signs.
And why do you care? Its his life. He is an adult. He is harming nobody. I would think a person using bitcoin as a screen name would understand the concept of privacy
But I also understand the concept of health. And when you are on levels where you need to take drugs to sustain your health form, it has consequences. You agree on that right?
And it is also a part of 'proof of work'.
If done responsibly its not harmful. And why the assumption he is still on if he ever was? He's a large framed dude. He has the structure to do this naturally and retain it.
He probably is a great person, lets set that straight. The feat he did by losing weight is impressive. (it requires eating not much and doing healthy things) it takes quite some time (or not if motivation is high)
But he does a WAYY better job than most people would. If those pictures feature the same person. I have respect for that.
What do you mean 'if its the same person'?
You never vnow if it is faked. But I trust you
Well I've seen video of him post-weight loss so unless there is some op to promote losing weight that they would fake entire Rogan episodes he was on I would have to assume its real. This change happened a few years ago. And he's been on many people's shows since and he looks like this
Oh my god. Well, this is going nowhere. Ffs it was a meme meant to inspire. Sorry for offending you somehow
Well I applaud the good intention and I would say to that guy: stay healthy and happy.
I am not offended in any way. I am just pointing out known problems and the path he took. But the moral of the story is a good one.
If that's the path he took and only if that path was followed recklessly. It can be done safely, even for extended periods of time. Its all about cycling them properly. Doing 8 weeks on followed by a proper 4 week post-cycle protocol followed by 4 weeks natty is not the same as an endless cycle. There is a science to it that if followed strictly eliminates harm
Lets hope this guy followed that schedule :)
Now were in agreement😁🤘
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One more thing. When one is in their 40s, which he was for his transformation I think and I was when I was taking them, you sometimes may want a a chemical nudging to get where ya going.
good
- eating
- sleeping
- moving
- drinking
- sunlight
- fresh air
- mental exercises
help alot too. Every bit counts.
Well yea the whole package helps but if you're not in your 40s yet, you see what I mean one day. I was doing all that since my whole life pretty much, just was never into lifting. And at 39 when I started lifting, I added a tool to the toolbox after a year of dedicated lifting with next to zero gains.
Here's someone's analysis from a blog dealing with anabolics I just found. Maybe its accurate, maybe BS, but seems like a good place for a reasoned analysis IMO
Why do you care though? PEDs still require putting in the work. You cant just sit there eating junk food and expect results
I have seen someone taking ped's and his shoulders went broad etc. He was abusing it, and he did not have any grain of mercy towards his own body for litterally developing the complications of abuse. But he did get results while doing not much. Almost nothing.
There are gains that are unfair and unnatural.
Unfair to whom? He's just a dude who changed his life drastically for the better. Cant you just be happy for him? Why the hate? How does it affect you or anyone else?
I do have to acknowledge the fact that I don't know if he actually took steroids. Joe Fazer (idk if you vnow him) also grew from weak to training his body with good results.
But the decisions are not generally not the best.
as comparison, I wouldn't be cheering someone who tells me that he has setup a coinbase wallet to learn about Bitcoin. The intention might be good, but the way you get there might not be the best.
Well abuse is abuse. Just because this person wasnt responsible does mean others arent. And doing nothing cannot build muscle regardless of what may have happened to his shoulders. Thats not how these substances work. I have experience with them. I do know how they work. I injured myself mid-cycle during my last cycle, but keep the cycle going so just to finish the bottle. I lost some of my gains even while still on it. Work needs to be done
Yes, but would you get the same results if you did not take PED's?
No but that's irrelevant. You're making this seem like he is in some organized competition and using banned substances. Its just a dude living his life.
It is really relevant. Because it shows other possibilities than what the body would actually do. If it is for medical reasons, I would agree. But most people are going on trt after using PED's because they messed up their body. And that is something that I wouldn't want to happen to anybody.
But its his life. Its nobody's business but his. Isnt privacy a thing anymore? Werent we irritated in recent years when some people thought other people's health decisions were their business? And again, this is all 100% assumption. Just be happy for the guy.