This will seem like blasphemy for a lot of you but fruit and honey have benefits
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Paul Saladino is to the carnivore movement what Roger Ver is to bitcoin. In the pre-insulin era patients whose family smuggled in honey and fruit to the ward would die from diabetic ketoacidosis. There is nothing mystically nutritious about either, it's just sugar.
You want to eat honey and fruit? Go for it, it's your decision, but there is nothing special about either.
Electrolytes. I experienced low potassium often on carnivore and it makes my heart race. Low enough and I'll go into afib.
Citrus fruits have a good amount of potassium. Issue fixed.
There is no one-size-fits all way of eating, but there are obvious pitfalls to certain ways of eating.
Are you very active?
maybe a stray gatherer gene?
If we were hunting for meat and didn’t find anything after several hours passed, it would be advantageous for us to find some berries or something to refuel and continue hunting again later. Maybe eating meat and carbs separately is better? 🤔
If we have specific gut bacteria that digest certain types of food, it would make sense not to mix them
Haven't gotten around to writing a better response, but for now I will say that eating carbs and fat together is contraindicated as it leads to Randle cycle activation and subsequent inflammation. Eat your carbs and fats separately, always. This is why junk food and the standard american diet (SAD) is so harmful to the body.
If my memory is accurate, I believe that I heard someone on a podcast say that fat and sugar don’t exist together anywhere in nature.
Although I hate Reddit, r/SaturatedFat (including fireinabottle.net and high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com) has opened my eyes more to how the body works.
High fat (>65% of calories) or low fat (<10% of calories) while keeping protein low-ish (depending on your goal) seems to fix metabolism pretty well.
I used to think that more protein = higher metabolism, but evidence suggests otherwise. Pretty interesting stuff.
Overeating protein eventually just leads to fat and I’ve heard that protein can cause insulin spikes too lol. The only things that never cause insulin spikes are fat and fiber.
Yep. Higher protein percntages literally slow down your metabolism.
In mice models, the mice with the lowest protein percentages would eat the most calories and STILL be the thinnest. Seems to translate into humans too.
The importance of protein seems to exaggerated. Protein for muscle recovery doesn’t even seem that important. When you have a good workout, you deplete glycogen stores in the muscles. The muscles then start to suck up glucose in the blood to refill the muscles causing them to grow. Protein may be the least valuable while fiat science tells you to keep eating dry chicken breasts.
Currently no, but I had been weightlifting a lot and I could also tell a difference in strength loss when I'd lift. Supplementing potassium (before fruits) fixed that.
Is potassium naturally and abundantly found in meat?
Potassium is the most abundant intracellular cation in the human body, I would assume it is abundant in all other animal cells as well. Supplementing potassium is also not something I would recommend to anyone without medical supervision considering that a) it can cause (sometimes fatal) heart arrhythmia, and b) it is very tightly regulated, both directly and indirectly, by the kidneys.
I think that logic makes sense but then why do carnivores salt their meat at all? Wouldn’t that just throw off the balance of sodium, magnesium, and potassium?
The human body is not a steam engine, it reacts to all stimuli. You don't need to constantly measure electrolytes or keep track of every single micronutrient you consume. Hunger is a physiologic response to a lack of food, and seeking salty foods is also a physiologic response to a possible lack of sodium. If the body doesn't get enough sodium, which can happen during starvation for example, you will actually secrete very little sodium through the urine. Human physiology is simply amazing like that.
Salt is sodium chloride, both of which are utilized by the body. Potassium can be found in meat, but its concentration is very tightly regulated by the body. Magnesium, calcium and other elements can be obtained mostly from... water, which might be a problem in some areas admittedly. Ancient humans had to worry about parasites, but water pollution, not so much.
Salting is especially important during the initial phases of any ketogenic diet because a rapid insulin decrease leads to an increase in the loss of sodium through the kidneys. This is known as 'keto flu' and can be avoided with salting to taste and drinking regular water.
See I just listen to my cravings when it comes to salt and it usually works out okay. If I feel like the meat is bland, I’ll add more salt. But wouldn’t cravings for fruit mean that your body wants more potassium or glucose? Or could it want an insulin spike to balance your electrolytes?
This is difficult to say for certain, since cravings can be hijacked by addictive substances...like fructose. You really could be defficient in potassium, which I find unlikely unless some other pathology is involved, or our lizard brain might just want that sweet sugar rush.
Great talk, gotta go sleep now.
