Retention of all users, 30 days after signup. The zap has to play a bigger role. The like button will take Nostr nowhere. Like button is a shitcoin with zero value proposition whatsoever. Zaps create real value and this is how we will keep users engaged on the platform.

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I think discoverability, search, and content variety play a big part in it too. Zaps are an awesome feature, but they only take you so far if the rest of the experience doesn’t meet expectations.

Agreed, i was just trying to compare it to the like button. By looking at these numbers, i think it’s pretty obvious at this point that this worthless dopamine button is useless

Pardon me Ser : but you’re leaving out the fact that a couple years ago this place was primarily filled with a bunch of #bitcoiners and #devs

While we agree on false dopamine I don’t know if force feeding others is the way since

1. #Bitcoin isn’t worldwide standard

2. 20K active users is low … right?

Is there a difference in retention between users with at least 1 zap sent and received vs no zaps?

Is there a correlation between user retention and zap count (instances of zaps, not amount of sats) to like count ratio?

I don’t know how you’d measure that. nostr.band is one of the only metrics tools we have here. nostr:npub1xdtducdnjerex88gkg2qk2atsdlqsyxqaag4h05jmcpyspqt30wscmntxy do you think there’s a way to answer this question?

I think such measurements are possible technically, but I don't have time for that. There is a dump of all nostr events a couple months old, if someone wants to make such research: https://dtan.xyz/e/nevent1qqspf7tn2cgadduepdr8q08z6x7cnsqfu78cwg23wz43d9kajpz6xxqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtczyp3lucccm3v9s087z6qslpkap8schltk427zfgqgrn3g2menq5zw6qcyqqqq05cw34txu

Unpopular opinion: The like button is useful.

I use it often as a fast "I've seen your note, you are not posting into a black empty void".

Agreed

Popular opinion, quiet majority.

I use Damus -> No Zaps 🤷‍♂️

Try this https://zap.army

Thanks for your help, but…

I don't understand the connection between the browser and a self-contained app. I won't click on it. I don't dare. 🤷‍♂️🫣

I completely understand your hesitency! But it's a script written by the Damus main dev. I tried it, it works

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Yep, the zap army thing works well. Super easy and you get your zaps back.

It's good that you don't trust us, use the link from Will (the damus dev).

(I just zapped your note with damus.)

Meh. They will be back.

The hard question we need to ask is how we win them back

We don’t need to. Just give it time.

Like Bitcoin, Nostr is inevitable.

Motivation isn’t the same for everyone.

Fuck it. Ima anomaly and that’s okay. ✅

Sometimes I like to simply and quickly acknowledge some Nostriches that I like a post without paying out Sats for every post. 🧡😊

I use Damus -> No Zaps 🤷‍♂️

That graph doesn't tell the full stoty.

I created my nsec long ago, went through that graph short term, but after that it started slowly going the other direction (back up). Can take years though.

Nostr's main differentiators are decentralization, permissionlessness and censorship resistance. Zaps are a cool feature that increases the interaction spectrum. The like button needs to stay. It's part of that spectrum. It doesn't compete.