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So, after reading the last few chapters of the Book of Judges, It starts going off the rails after Samson.

By the end of Judges, there is a whackadoodle story of man and his "concubine" visiting a city in the land of the tribe of Benjamin. At night, there are men from the city that knock on the door and call for the man to come outside to presumably have sex with them. The man doesn't go out but sends his "concubine" out.

She ends up dead on the street in the morning, and the husband chops her in pieces and sends her out among the "Tribes of Israel".

The rest of the tribes get together, sack the city and kill much of "Benjamin".

Then when they realize that no one will survive from Benjamin, and no one will allow their daughters to marry into the tribe of Benjamin, they decide to go invade yet another city of men who had skipped out on the killing campaign, and kill those men, and give the women to the remaining men of Benjamin.

I might be summarizing some of this incorrectly. The general thought is: it was bloody. It sounds like a lot of genetic culling. Humans being treated like herds of animals.

I kinda just want to walk away from the whole story and say, these people and this religion have nothing to do with me.

It was the first time that I had second thoughts about trying to be "follower of Jesus" whose story came from this story.

It also gives me second thoughts on the whole genetic heritage thing.

There have been couple times in as I age into my thirties where I have the uncomfortable feeling like I have offended my ancestors.

part of me is like, modern humans are so far removed from these stories of bloodthirsty genetic culling.

part of me thinks, maybe bloodshed, revenge, honor is actually more human than peace and prosperity.

or maybe it's just the stories about bloodshed and honor survive.

either way, it's gory.

Thankfully, Ruth is up next and from the first chapter, I feel like I can hear grasshoppers in farm fields as Ruth picks up some grain that harvesters left behind.

As I understand it many or most of the old testament stories are metaphors that are very difficult to understand intellectually, but are meant to impart a lesson. The book of judges may have an underlying spiritual meaning, but the interpretation I was given is that it's an example of what a culture is like without a proper implementation of justice.

My personal opinion is that many Christians get far too absorbed in the old testament to the point where it overrides universal truths spoken by Christ. Especially in the context of supporting Zionism.

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the last half of Judges and first part of Samuel do seem kinda whackadoodle.

50 thousand 3 score and 10 men getting "smoted" for touching the Ark irreverently when it was being toted back from the Philistines.

it's like God just saw Israel as cattle. i do understand there are lessons (the strong men-->good times-->weak men -->bad times) cycle over and over. there's just a couple of times when it's kinda outrageous.

and yet in chapter 8 of samuel God warns the israelites they would suffer slavery if they took a king

sorta almost seems like a progression from something more hidden to more obvious, direct tyranny

like, the writers or the characters don't really seem to understand some of these Lord guys are not actually ok

it's that apparent schizophrenia that makes me wonder about christians who believe the "word of god" doctrine

like, read Song of Songs, and tell me that isn't soft core porn... and really, David, Solomon, these guys are absolute trash, sorry not sorry

There is a gnostic theory that the Jews were worshiping the devil during periods of the old testament. I'm not too familiar with the explanation, but it might add up.