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Is this possible? What do you think?

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PABLOF7z 1y ago

“Better” is subjective thus what matters is having different algorithms that are easily consumable via a standardized interface (DVMs)

I’m working on baking this in into Highlighter and showing to the other clients what is possible.

Discovery is still broken when there is ZERO reason for it to be broken.

Discoverability should be mind-numbingly easy in an open protocol.

I'm thinking along the lines of a customizable algorithm, I suppose. A personal trending list.

But the base algorithm can also be improved, I think. It's a bit too "dumb".

PABLOF7z 1y ago

There is no “base” algorithm though; just too few implementations that everybody uses because they don’t realize there’s better stuff available.

What we need to work on is disintermediating that conception where everybody integrates with one or two different algorithms just because

Oh, I agree, but nostr:nprofile1qyvhwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnndehhyapwwdhkx6tpdshszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgnwaehxw309ahkvenrdpskjm3wwp6kytcqyqe4dhnpkwty0ycuazepgzet4wphuzqscrh4zka7jt0qyjqypw9a6vxwe7g was challenging us to improve his specifically.

Then we'd at least have two very different result outputs. The ones we have (band/primal) are so similar in the output, that I mistakingly thought that one was perhaps a fork of the other.

To be honest, it's embarrassingly easy to game the current trending lists, if you are good at pattern-recognition.

If I want something unusual, but interesting, to trend, I just write "GM" or "GN" after the text and then the GM/GN replies push it up the list. 😂

The reason is that there is too much stuff to work on.

PABLOF7z 1y ago

Discovery is the main reason people seem to churn. Worth prioritizing it.

Doesn't the slowness of loading from relays also play a role?

What slowness?

1️⃣ Loading of quoted events.

2️⃣ Loading of profile names.

3️⃣ Loading of comments

( Loading of media.

-> Hmm, this could be my problem of using Tor. But somehow people will attribute this to the client if they load slow, or?)

Also how does the user know if all data was loaded for his thread?

I know that we can only check connected relays, so we don't know if really we have all the data. But it would be nice to know if my post was loaded fully from my relays or it is still searching? Maybe it would be a better UI.

This sounds doable, some hint in the UI for that kind of thing wouldn't be bad.

But I think Tor is uniquely slow so most people are probably not suffering as much as you with these things.

I guess more feedback never hurts. But maybe this is personal taste. 🤷

Centralized platforms are slow to load stuff too many times. Nostr threads generally load basically instantly to me, but sometimes there may be some slowness here and there.

In other words: you may be right, but I don't see it as a big problem.

Good argument, you win.

😂