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RIP #Obtanium on "certified Android devices."

"Non-certified OSes, like GrapheneOS, should be unaffected by this for as long as they are allowed to continue to exist."

Freedom tech exists on iOS—after developers KYC themselves, even where Apple now allows sideloading under its rules. Android matters because it's open source and allows sideloading without Google's permission. That's why Nostr apps, FOSS tools, and freedom tech took root here.

#GrapheneOS works because it preserves that ecosystem without breaking continuity. But now Google's forcing developer KYC for the Play Store on certified devices. The choice becomes: KYC to Google or start over.

This is what breaks mobile in a way desktop never broke. On Linux, you can run open-source and closed-source software on the same primary system. On mobile, once the app ecosystem is gated, custom AOSP ROMs don’t get that role.

The result is a split by design. As I predicted—for the foreseeable future—stock Android becomes the primary device for most. Privacy ROMs get relegated to secondary use, not because of capability—but because of access.

For those whose threat model demands it, privacy ROMs remain the primary device. For everyone else, they become secondary—appealing to those willing to sacrifice convenience for privacy and security, but not the masses.

Obtainium dying on stock Android is the warning. After this, the rest is just enforcement.

The catch now, however, is that with custom ROMs you’re rebuilding the entire app ecosystem from scratch.

On Linux, you can still install closed-source software. On mobile, once you step outside the Google/Apple ecosystem, you’re not just losing a store—you’re losing the distribution, licensing, and services stack a lot of the apps people actually use are built around.

That’s Linux on mobile, but without an easy way to carry over the apps people already paid for, depend on for productivity, and use every day.

That’s the challenge in front of us right now.

https://keepandroidopen.org/

#IKITAO

We need to draw down the price to get #graphineos factory installed. It is super easy to do yourself, but super expensive to have it done.

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If I thought there was a market for them, I could substantially automate installing it. But most normies are afraid of freedom...

I think it is a trust issue. They 'trust' google/apple, and think 'scam' for everything else. Whoever does it needs to have good branding.

Yup.

And those that don't trust Apple & Google, don't want to trust anything, and refuse to read.

I installed lineageos for a few randos as a service on eBay before eBay locked down their compliance requirements, and the customer thought he was better off not updating his firmware.

I think maybe he thought the 'virus' was in the updates.

People are completely disconnected from reality.

The bootloader "scare" message doing its job, keeping frightened normies on the plantation :/

Firmware not free until the bootloader is, sadly...

Lineageos was a pain to update.

No he sounded like the type that was disabling Windows Updates. He didn't trust anything.

Checks out

Ironically, you don’t have the freedom to install it on any device you choose, only pixels and that’s because they are the only device that will allow you to relock the bootloader with a modified Os, as long as you have the custom AVB key from graphene.

This also has nothing to do with freedom, it’s about accountability.

Only works on pixels and I don’t think Google would appreciate that..🤦🏻‍♂️

Good