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That's a biological predator/carnivore. Humans mass murdering animals and eating dead flesh everyday is an imbalance in "nature". Carnivorism = Cannibalism
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Jeff Swann 2y ago

Nah, we are top of the food chain & we do not digest cellulose. We really need animals to upcycle cellulose wrapped protein & other nutrients for us. While some may be better adapted than others, vegans & fruitarians almost always wind up extremely unhealthy, if they even make it to old age. Steve Jobs died because his fruit diet destroyed his pancreas.

Cults & govts alike promote negative propaganda about meat in order to deprive people of healthy fats & proteins. Fat & protien deficiencies combined with a carbohydrate addiction keep people foggy headed & emotional & much easier to manipulate. Is it a coinincidence that your argument against meat is a purely emotional one? Even most supposed herbivores are oppirtunistic meat eaters. All animals like easy protein.

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Jac 2y ago

This is absolutely true. I think it bears mention that ruminants digest meat as well because they can’t digest cellulose either, the microbes in their enormous gut however provide complete nutrition. A ruminant animal with gut dysbiosis is in big trouble. People often like to point to monogastric animals like gorillas and horses to bolster their arguments for plant based diets, the truth is both those animals possess a cecum that serves as a microbe breeding chamber, and those microbes, not the cellulose consumed is the main source of nutrition along with ingested starches, protein, and sugars. The sugars largely feed microbes though, that’s why they’re so gassy. 😁

Furthermore there is a Cochran metadata review covered by Dr. Jason Fung that clearly shows that increased consumption of saturated fat after age 40 results in significantly reduced mortality for a variety of reasons. Metabolic syndrome happens to everyone eventually unless you do something meaningful about it. The FDA has experienced regulator capture by the agribusiness sector for at least 70 years. Sure there is money in animal production, but nothing compared to using sugar to make people eat grain and feel no satiety ever. The bottom line is we have all been played, pierce the corporate veil and save yourselves.

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Jac 2y ago

This is absolutely true. I think it bears mention that ruminants digest meat as well because they can’t digest cellulose either, the microbes in their enormous gut however provide complete nutrition. A ruminant animal with gut dysbiosis is in big trouble. People often like to point to monogastric animals like gorillas and horses to bolster their arguments for plant based diets, the truth is both those animals possess a cecum that serves as a microbe breeding chamber, and those microbes, not the cellulose consumed is the main source of nutrition along with ingested starches, protein, and sugars. The sugars largely feed microbes though, that’s why they’re so gassy. 😁

Furthermore there is a Cochran metadata review covered by Dr. Jason Fung that clearly shows that increased consumption of saturated fat after age 40 results in significantly reduced mortality for a variety of reasons. Metabolic syndrome happens to everyone eventually unless you do something meaningful about it. The FDA has experienced regulator capture by the agribusiness sector for at least 70 years. Sure there is money in animal production, but nothing compared to using sugar to make people eat grain and feel no satiety ever. The bottom line is we have all been played, pierce the corporate veil and save yourselves.

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Consciousness Incarnate 2y ago

Mass murder of animals is an ethical disturbance. We are one with the animals. There is no nutritional requirement from the body for flesh that could not be more healthfully and abundantly met with plant foods (not grass/cellulose, but fruits and vegetables predominantly).

Humans eat meat out of indoctrination, addiction and gluttony. If humanity would cease this practice it would accelerate growth in consciousness world-wide.

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2Pac 2y ago

Humans to survive in nature need animal protein. Vegans can only survive in the modern world with modern farming and agriculture.

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2Pac 2y ago

Vegans (and non vegans) eat soybeans as a source of protein yet soybean farms kill tons of animals. So why is it ok to kill animals to farm plants but not to eat? https://www.littlekitchenbigworld.com/the-mass-slaughter-of-animals-for-soybean-production/

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Consciousness Incarnate 2y ago

This is patently false. A human being experiences no physiologial need for animal protein. This is obviously not the case for true carnivores, like felines.

All humans are physiologically vegetarian. We live in a world eith hyper developed agriculture that is capable of providing many times the abundance of vegetable foods that is all a human needs.

Willful consumption of meat beyond that is purely gluttony, egotism and indoctrinated belief. It is a worldwide cult which you and I were raised in and this cult is causing the veritable holocaust of billions of animals yearly.

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2Pac 2y ago

Go try to survive alone in the wilderness without consuming animal protein, you would not last long. Humans are omnivore, you should not feel bad for eating meet, other omnivores don’t feel bad about it.

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Jeff Swann 2y ago

Omnivores only because we are adaptable & able to survive on many less than optimal food sources. There is zero requirement for plant foods of any kind.

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Jeff Swann 2y ago

Archeological records show otherwise. When humans began farming we shrank by a foot, our brains got smaller, & our teeth started falling out. Animal foods are far more nutrient dense & bioavailable.

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Olga 2y ago

False. Veganism is another man made religion. You can be close to “source” by eating meat. You can be spiritual, loving and an overall good human being by consuming meat. I’ve actually done the vegan thing for a few months and I’ve never felt worse in my life. The minute I started eating meat again I realized what a dumbass I was. Humans are so gullible and easily controlled by their emotions. Those who have deep rooted unresolved anger/trauma will always fall for anything the mainstream media agenda pushes because they want to feel superior like they’re somehow fixing a major “problem” when in reality they need to stop avoiding taking care of themselves.

Have some steak 🥩